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Intel Talks 45nm Production
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That's interesting. Im guessing 45 nm is the smallest size we'll see for a while, as any smaller and the techniques of current lithography (making chips) are going to have trouble. It will be interesting to see when we'll see something smaller.
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Molester said:
I've read all those articles. Intel is so far ahead of AMD right now it HURTS. AMD is scrambling for something to sell. Sucks because I used AMD chips the past ten years or so. Going all the way back to one of my first 1ghz chips. But now they're next "big step" is to release 65nm versions of the chips they already have. THEN they'll have new 65nm dual cores around the same time Intel comes out with 45nm chips. It's f***n' crazy.
You have to give it to Intel R&D though... they certainly weren't resting on their laurels. I'd say if they can work out their corporate problems they've got the market in the bag until 2010.
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Imagine how well 45nm will clock 
. I remember the jump from 90nm to 65nm CedarMills, 
. I'm ready.
. I remember the jump from 90nm to 65nm CedarMills, . I'm ready.
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well, i'll say this, it's good to see Inetel doing good again, 'resting on their laurels' was what they did from Athlon to AM2 Athlon64....
AMD will still gain on the server-side though, and K8L looks promising.
As for 45nm being the smallest for a while, I've read about 32 and 22nm processes being worked on....
AMD will still gain on the server-side though, and K8L looks promising.
As for 45nm being the smallest for a while, I've read about 32 and 22nm processes being worked on....
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Molester said:
Well YEAH. That explains the past ten years for me. But I agree, conversely I see AMD hanging onto the server market until at least 2010 as well, then it'll be time to swing your partner again. But with Intel inventing NEW FORMS OF LASER... and an out from left field success with the Core 2 Duo, I think they're only going to continue to stretch the desktop lead they're about to gain, and it will be a long time before they lose it again. People don't switch from one company to another after ten years for no reason.
It's the opposite in the corporate world. Once the IT departments finally get something going that WORKS they'll put a deathgrip on it. They were still using Windows 95 at the U.S. Postal Service almost well into the Windows XP era. Now that most corporations have switched to AMD server processors, you're looking at another ten years before they switch back. And that includes corporations buying brand new servers today. They aren't going to be so quick to buy into the latest and greatest thing. It'll be another ten years before they even realize that Sony has made a come back, then they'll switch over and by then AMD will be back on the rise
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rainless said:It'll be another ten years before they even realize that Sony has made a come back, then they'll switch over and by then AMD will be back on the rise
sony has made a comeback? news to me.
and what do they have to do with Intel and AMD?
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They're the rootkit designers for I386-compatible chips. Hey!
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2010 is a long ways away, I wouldn't go making any kind of predictions past 18 months. I have to say I like Intel's approach to alternating architecture updates and manufacturing updates. Why this wasn't done sooner is beyond me.
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rainless said:It'll be another ten years before they even realize that Sony has made a come back, then they'll switch over and by then AMD will be back on the rise
Somebody has PS3 on the brain.
I wonder if it will get to a point where Intel is so far ahead they cut back research for a while, then we'll have a stale market again for while, with very small advances at each release.
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damarble said:
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Pentium 4 era?
In all seriousness though, the core 2 duo era has just started and to talk like AMD is finished and doesnt have something up thier sleeves is foolish. They finally stepped out from intels shadow with the release of the athlon 64, i highly doubt they'll fall back into intels shadow.... not without a decent fight.
Since performance and temps are pretty much under control with C2D and current die size, I suspect there are 45nm mega-multi core chips in our future. A Core2 Quatro at 45nm would probably run as cool as current C2D. The 45nm technology also leaves room on the chip for advanced features... maybe even a way for all software to benefit greatly from multi cores.
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xTrEmEoVrClOcKr said:Imagine how well 45nm will clock
130nm Northwood -> 90nm Prescott jump anyone?
Who says a die shrink always works...? The good news is that Intel are doing this well in advance so should have plenty time to iron out lumps before releasing the product.
I hope.
