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    The 1K question!

    Hello there!


    After selling some of my older junk, I finally mustered some cash for a new Conroe build - I need CPU, MOBO and Memory. Here is what I have narrowed down to:


    E6600 - any vendor - around $315

    Abit AW9D Max - If I can find one - $261 or so.

    Team PC2 8000 2gb - $345

    Opinions? Different RAM? Remember, 1k budget shipped.

    I am going to overclock this thing - cooled by Apogee, BIP3 and D4. My goal is to hit 3+ ghz if possible (I know results vary a lot)

    Any info is appreciated!
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    I see that you have chosen an E6600 and you will be overclocking on water. To me, that tells me youre serious about overclocking and you will be needing a motherboard that will give you solid FSB results to run 1:1 with the great ram you got there. I would highly recommend a P5B-Deluxe Wifi mobo as most of them will run to 450+ FSB right out of the box, 480 to 500 FSB with some tweaking of the bios, and 500+ with better cooling.

    This is all assuming you are really serious about high overclocks and a 1:1 memory setup.

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    3GHz will be cake. I would get DDR800 so you can possibly run 1:1. 1:1 gives the best performance when you get to around 800MHz DDR, that is 400FSB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerXLT8
    3GHz will be cake. I would get DDR800 so you can possibly run 1:1. 1:1 gives the best performance when you get to around 800MHz DDR, that is 400FSB.

    So what you're saying is that I will be better off with something like PC2 6400 with better timings than a faster ram with more relaxed timings?

    Thanks for the quick responses BTW - Dominick, I will end up getting the Asus board - no one seems to have the Abit.
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    i would go with the

    Gskill DDR2 800mhz "HZ" modle.... AMAZING stuff i use it in combination with my E6600 on my P5W DH and its amazing.... im just waiting for a cool day so i can do 4ghz 445x9

    BUT i would get a P5B Deluxe.... seems like ur gonna have way good cooling so the more fsb you can get the better.... i had to put AS5 and a 40mm fan on my board and it is maxed out at 445.... a p5b on the other hand looks at 450 like nothing... then you add a 40mm fan and some as5 to the main chipset hs... and ull probably be able to get 500fsb no prob.

    and as for overclocking the e6600 will do 3ghz a 25% oc on its stock volts no prob... considering i can do 3.960ghz with an ultra 120 and a yate loon... im sure you will get 4 ghz + sucide runs and mabey even around 4ghz stable 24/7 oc... probably more like 3.8ghz 24/7 stable

    OH and BTW if someone with a P5W DH is being FSB limited.... max out the ICH voltage... YES ICH... i was hittin a brick wall at 435fsb... now im almost positive i could do 450fsb.

    heres a link to the ram

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065

    its amazing stuff... will do 1000-1066mhz at 2.15v at stock 4-4-4-12 timings... and WOW im glad i bought mine 2 months ago... it was 60 bucks cheaper.
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    Thanks nd4 - that looks good as well BUT, shouldn't I be getting faster RAM than DDR2 800?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrl_alt_del_
    Thanks nd4 - that looks good as well BUT, shouldn't I be getting faster RAM than DDR2 800?
    my gskill ddr2-800 does ddr21000 at 4-4-4-10 on a p5b-deluxe
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    You just want Micron D9GMH the DDR2 can be 677 it will all overclock pretty much the same.

    like these are equivelent but out of stock right now.
    http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-3338-p-...6989ce113c5bd7

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    is this the one you are talking about Maji?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrl_alt_del_
    Corsair


    is this the one you are talking about Maji?
    yep...love my set to bad my early ab9-pro only has 2.3vdimm. im sure i could get ddr2-1200@5-5-5-16 stable with 2.4vdimm. well either that or my board is flaky since it is a early one. as the max fsb i am able to get no matter what is 395mhz.

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    Personally, I think the Abit AW9D-Max is a perfect match for the E6600. Check out my signature, you'll be able to run well over 3 gig no problem. Just update to the latest BIOS version after you get up and running with all the drivers installed. DDR2-1000 RAM is probably overkill. Just get some good DDR2-800 RAM with D9 chips. Hard to beat the G. Skill "HZ" or this Team (see link).

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    the 2gig kit of corsair 6400-c4's with same ic's are $279@newegg atm

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    Keep in mind with DDR2 800 you'll get 400MHz FSB running 1:1, which is 3600Mhz for the E6600, IMO unless you plan on running far over 4Ghz (which is 445 FSB), DDR2-1000 is overkill.
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    Well guys, you have convinced me! Thanks all for the help!

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    Go ahead and get the team ram.. Ill go dig up the XS thread that is cursing the corsairs right now..
    http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-44410-8...6989ce113c5bd7

    http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...corsair+6400c4
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    crucial 10th annyversary edition is also D9GMH (its Ballistix with a different heatspreader)
    It goes for $230 right now ....hard to beat that price !
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148017

    there is a thread over at XS that got diverted onto this topic...cant remember where. but its THE #1 bang for Buck ram right now.

    peoepl were getting DDR 800 with 3-3-3-8 2.4v timings !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senater_Cache
    crucial 10th annyversary edition is also D9GMH (its Ballistix with a different heatspreader)
    It goes for $230 right now ....hard to beat that price !
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148017

    there is a thread over at XS that got diverted onto this topic...cant remember where. but its THE #1 bang for Buck ram right now.

    peoepl were getting DDR 800 with 3-3-3-8 2.4v timings !
    Oh yea, I saw a picture were someone took the heat spreader off those, said D9 right on the chips
    Thats HAWT!

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    Hey Dominick - would I be better off with the P5W DH Deluxe? What's the difference between those boards?

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    The DH has a lower FSB overclock limit, but slightly better ram performance.

    The P5B-Deluxe has memory sub-timings to tweak in the bios to help make up of the ram performance difference and higher FSB overclocking.

    I think it depends on your goals, if you want to bench 4Ghz the DH can make that tricky, But if your goal is 3.6Ghz or less 24/7 then the DH would be more then fine.
    The P5B-Deluxe will make benching easier, Dry ice, phase, cascade, LN2 what have you.
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    looks nice =)

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