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ECH said:Back peddling? As I stated before, no one can make any conclusive opinions with that review unless their is more information per game (in particular different resolutions). I've proven my point. There is no need to discuss pricing now. As I said before, the consumer is simply paying more for memory. There is no other arch difference between the 512meg vs 1 Gig version. But in any case, the lowest price GTX found at newegg:
here
The lowest priced HD 2900XT 1 Gig found:
here
This leaves a considerable difference making the HD2900 XT 1 Gig still cheaper. And, I didn't even bother with Ultra's prices, LOL. Which also means that the 1 Gig is not priced to compete with the GTX. Therefore, what you posted makes no sense. The HD 2900 XT (1 gig or not) is a medium range card that on occasions competes with the higher priced GTX at higher resolutions. You making a bigger deal out of this then should be. On another note, will ATI release a R650 (some think it's a R680) in Q3 making this a X1800xt > X1900xtx all over again? Hard to say, all I can say is stay tuned, LOL!
If you see back peddling in anything I said you are dreaming and you just made my point for me thank
you. While NewEgg certainly doesn't have the lowest prices they are representative and it looks like the
1Gb 2900 Orices have dropped about $30 (that is what poor sales tend to do to prices) so lets see here.
Right now in stock at NewEgg and after any rebates offered the lowest prices are as follows:
8800GTS 640Mb = $350
2900XT 1GB = $490
8800GTX = $510
8800Untra = 580 (was $560 two weeks ago)
With a $140 higher price the 1Gb 2900 certainly isn't priced to compete with a 640Mb 8800GTS even
though performance wise that is where the card falls in line.
At a whopping $20 less than a much better in games with AA 8800GTX that certainly is where the 2900
1GB card is competing price wise.
With a $90 higher price the flat superior 8800 Ultra is still competing better in price with the 2900 1Gb
than a 2900 1Gb is competing with the $140 less 8800GTS 640Mb to which the 2900XT is comparable
to in gaming performance with AA dialed in.
You are trying to flog a dead horse here ECH. The 29001Gb is no bargain and doesn't have the gaming
performance worthy of it's price tag. The whole point of getting a 1Gb card is so you can run higher
resolutions and higher AA dialed in and keep everything in local on-card memory (versus swapping/using
performance killing system memory) and dialing up the AA just clobbers the performance of a 2900 of
any flavor.
wise. The 2900's DX10 performance is also way sub par. The 2900's IQ is also worse than any 8800 card.
NV anything having better in IQ than an ATI card was a big flip/flop that occured with a 2900's release. ATI
has always cleaned NV's clock in IQ until the 2900's popped out of the oven.
BTW there will be no R650 or R680 refresh card. ATI killed them and to cut it's loses on the R600 R&D
long ago when the 65nm die shrink went down in major flames (ATI knew when to quit flogging a dead
horse lol). The next ATI card out will be using the R700.
The 2900XT 512Mb gives decent value for you $ if you get it under $400. The 2900XT 1Gb just gets you
a higher price period. If you are thinking about getting a 2900XT 1Gb card then pop an extra $20 out of
your wallet to get 8800GTX instead then dial up the AA and enjoy. Throw in a little stock OC and enjoy
it even more.
Enough said lol.
Viper