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Buy More , I'm putting in this week.Sure hope so, Im an AMD stock holder. Dont laugh....
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Buy More , I'm putting in this week.Sure hope so, Im an AMD stock holder. Dont laugh....
I have to agree with this, for an AMD perspective.Their roadmaps were always amazing, until you dust of the latest one and check what should be out by now, like Kuma H1 08, Deneb FX, Deneb and Propus H2 08 Link.
I am sure some people who were around the Barcelona launch remember the smokes and mirror operation to save their stock from Barcs results.
Bulldozer and SSE5 might ring some bells, oh look those should be out in a few months as well. LINK
The best news these days didn't come from AMD themselves but from Intel, they pushed back basically everything a full quarter so all they have till Q3-Q4 is the old C2D and a luxury platform, which gives AMD an opportunity.
This is what remains to be seen. Shall we start?Just remember guys - AMD is under new management.
I'm not sure you can apply the behavior of the last 1-2 years as a basis for future events ...
In my experience most jobs take at least 6 months to get into the swing. At 2-3 months I wouldn't predict anything since a lot of the people that really run the place (like the sergeants in an army) are still running under SOPs from the last admin. We won't know until next spring how this admin will turn out ...This is what remains to be seen. Shall we start?
The new management has been in a month or two?
Be honest, how many Client roadmap product delays have we seen take place in this period?
FX is enthusiast level which right now is not an AMD position for K10.
K10-X2 would make more sense to have released but considering tooling time is made more sense to just hold out for 45nm.
45nm should be more profitable providided we stop the world economic slide down the bung hole.
Just remember guys - AMD is under new management.
I'm not sure you can apply the behavior of the last 1-2 years as a basis for future events ...
This may be of interest and if true I may buy one for my #2 system (holding out for the new X4 for my main system).
Their roadmaps were always amazing, until you dust of the latest one and check what should be out by now, like Kuma H1 08, Deneb FX, Deneb and Propus H2 08 Link.
I am sure some people who were around the Barcelona launch remember the smokes and mirror operation to save their stock from Barcs results.
Bulldozer and SSE5 might ring some bells, oh look those should be out in a few months as well. LINK
Some people fell for it. Link
If I take a look at those roadmaps, I see some new promises and that Bulldozer gets pushed back 2 years when the samples should be out.
So with the roadmap update AMD's ondie gpu comes later than Intel's and SSE5 comes later than AVX as well which turns these attacks on Intel into responses from Intel's latest tech and possibly makes SSE5 worth as much as SSE4a.
How is all this good news ?
The best news these days didn't come from AMD themselves but from Intel, they pushed back basically everything a full quarter so all they have till Q3-Q4 is the old C2D and a luxury platform, which gives AMD an opportunity.
sse5 dies because intel wants it to die.
Kuroimaho said:SSE5 ? Come on (I already said that) if Intel won't support it and gonna make something different AMD has trouble to make people use it if another version is out by Intel, make it SSE6 or SSE4.C
which in truth i7, is only better at rendering and encoding.
i wonder how much 17 year old kev will be enconding while playin far cry....
oh wait thats right, deneb has better fps than i7
my bad....
We are being offered them for next week stock but the price is 14% higher than the last time they were offered.This may be of interest and if true I may buy one for my #2 system (holding out for the new X4 for my main system).
http://www.valleyseek.com/product.action?itemID=119355
It would be a sad irony if the recession killed AMD just as they obtained the captal to become competitive again.
WARP10 stands for Windows Advanced Rasterization Platform and is part of DirectX 11, which is supposed to be released alongside the Windows 7 launch. Basically WARP10 is about non-DX10 compliant hardware (especially multi-core CPUs) rendering/accelerating DirectX 10 applications. So for example CPUs are able to accelerate DirectX 10 games.
WARP10 also supports DirectX 10.0 as well as DirectX 10.1. DirectX 11 games can also be emulated via fallbacks to DirectX 9 or DirectX 10 level. Even optional texture formats, anti-aliasing up to 8x, anisotropic filtering as well as 32 and 64 bit applications are supported. As minimal requirements Microsoft specifies a CPU with 800 MHz and 512 MiByte RAM - MMX, SSE or SSE2 aren't compulsory, but especially SSE2 and SSE 4.1 are supposed to deliver additional performance. WARP10 runs independently from the graphics card.
The biggest difference to the hitherto used software rasterizer seems to be that WARP10 makes intensive use of multi-core CPUs. The best performance is supposed to be obtained on quad-core CPUs. Furthermore WARP10 seems to run notably faster with SSE 4.1.
I did not expect the instruction set war to come to a next step so soon, but Intel found a supporter.
Source
Guess who doesn't have SSE4.1 support, I won't be surprised if Intel will make lot of Warp10 benches. As long as it is used for fallback AMD might be on top because their IGPs can be used for 3D unlike Intel's but if games will come out with adding more effects if someone has a few unused cores this might matter.