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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalanche View Post
    how is the BFG Tech ES SERIES ES-800 800W Continuous?
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    I have been reading the suggestions from mods / senior members from different threads. Consequently, I will make a bit more research before I post any further in this thread. Stay tuned for the next update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diaz View Post
    I have been reading the suggestions from mods / senior members from different threads. Consequently, I will make a bit more research before I post any further in this thread. Stay tuned for the next update.

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    Diaz,

    Everyone respects your enthusiasm on your project, I know I do. As long as you understand the scope of your undertaking and not get discouraged, I'm sure many will contribute or point out errors (via PM).

    A few suggestions:

    Segregate them by power output (ie 400-500w, 500-600 etc.)

    Perhaps list modulars separately. I know I have to look from time to time to see if they are or not. I can't remember them all.

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    yea could be ordered like
    *non-mudular*
    400-550
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    *modular*
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    dont worry with prices since that will be very hard to do. JG forum had a suggested 80&#37;+ eff psu thread, they had prices listed or linked to e-tailers. since stock changed and some stopped carrying x brand/model it was hard to keep it up to date. I would just keep it updated with what is still retail vs what is no longer retail.

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    Thanks guys, that order is pretty much what I had in mind. Price and looks are not relevant, its all about quality and performance. Then issues such as the Liberty's melting glue becoming a conducting material would also scratch out the PSU's.

    I have been looking at all the Jonny reviews, and to be honest, there are not a HUGE amount of mainstream 500-700 PSU's in there; which is probably the most popular in these forums. I will have to source some reviews from other places as well to try to get some of those wattages in there. Keeping busy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by diaz View Post
    Thanks guys, that order is pretty much what I had in mind. Price and looks are not relevant, its all about quality and performance. Then issues such as the Liberty's melting glue becoming a conducting material would also scratch out the PSU's.

    I have been looking at all the Jonny reviews, and to be honest, there are not a HUGE amount of mainstream 500-700 PSU's in there; which is probably the most popular in these forums. I will have to source some reviews from other places as well to try to get some of those wattages in there. Keeping busy...

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    Diaz,

    I agree, consider listing the "recommended" only with the model number, test source with a URL if you feel up to it. We don't give a rat's butt about the boat anchors. Give the testing sites the page hits, they've earned it. Might want to consider PMing S/N and OW for their opinions of source site reviews besides jonnyguru and [H]ardop. Not everyone does it the same or reliably. Three reliable and noted test sources such as S/N suggested would keep any "But he said, they said.........." arguments to a minimum.

    When you list the model number, guys can search for it at many different retailers. Not everyone is in North America either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diaz View Post
    I have been looking at all the Jonny reviews, and to be honest, there are not a HUGE amount of mainstream 500-700 PSU's in there; which is probably the most popular in these forums.
    Mainstream units don't bring in the page hits and thus result in fewer advertising dollars with which to pay the site's bills
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post
    Mainstream units don't bring in the page hits and thus result in fewer advertising dollars with which to pay the site's bills
    What to you consider mainstream? And what criteria do you consider page hits?

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    Most units below 600W. Unless they blow up in testing, people don't seem to care about reading those reviews.
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    Update completed for today!

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    Just a quick note - I usually don't go out of my way to test at 50 degrees. Sometimes I'll just "happen" to let them get that hot or hotter, but usually it's unintentional. When I see them start passing 50, I'll crack the hot box open just a shade and let things restabilize
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post
    Just a quick note - I usually don't go out of my way to test at 50 degrees. Sometimes I'll just "happen" to let them get that hot or hotter, but usually it's unintentional. When I see them start passing 50, I'll crack the hot box open just a shade and let things restabilize
    I trust your reviews, whether they are 50C or not. Usually the manufacturer will display if they were rated at 50C. If this is true, it will show in normal testing, yeilding better than specs power handling.

    EDIT: lol the tests are 45C... my bad

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    Probably should have replied to this thread and not the other one but I read the other one first. anyway, one of the [H] forum members sorted my reviews here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post
    And here I am giving out warranties on my work anyway

    Of course, I've only ever needed to make good on one of my warranties a couple of times... and one of those times was a unit I had never opened up... and the other time the unit was working and it proved to be a compatibility issue...
    And a fine job you did (I was the compatibility issue). My replacement was here in days, and now I am the proud owner of a CWT1200PUC. This thing could power my whole house!

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    how about the seasonic made antec earthwatts?
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    i think their great for sub 500w psu's which aren't yet listed

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    Quote Originally Posted by e6600 View Post
    how about the seasonic made antec earthwatts?
    http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews

    i think their great for sub 500w psu's which aren't yet listed
    The 500 and 650 versions are already listed. If you find a proper review including proper testing methods, I will post other models.

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    Why not the 500w FSP Blue Storm II? They are nice little units when they aren't too hot, but missing MOV.

    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaWolf

    The Good:
    does full power at 45 degrees
    the color scheme is nice
    sleeving is well done
    controls ripple well
    efficiency is quite good below 40 degrees

    The Bad:
    efficiency takes a dive when the blueberry gets too hot

    The Mediocre:

    no MOV - I hate cost cutting. Let's add that back in, shall we FSP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WonderingSoul View Post
    Why not the 500w FSP Blue Storm II? They are nice little units when they aren't too hot, but missing MOV.



    http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story3&reid=84
    If OW gives it the nod, it will make it in this thread. To me, what holds it back is the crossloading. If it were tight in that department, I would have added it alraedy.

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    Clearly its on the edge...

    Summary

    You missed the recommendation by *that* much, FSP. If you can pull the voltage regulation in just a bit and make it just a smidgen more tolerant to high temps, you'll have a real winner here.

    As it stands now, this unit is a very good choice for those who just need something halfway reliable that does its job capably. The price isn't ridiculous, it looks good, it doesn't get real loud unless you bake it, and it can be easily found anywhere in North America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caligula420 View Post
    Clearly its on the edge...
    Cal,

    I agree. Diaz's list should only include "no brainers" and not power supplies with too many "if's." There are too many top-notch units that stand alone above the rest to be guessing at others.


    WS,

    I'm not saying the Fortron is junk at all, it's just getting long in the tooth and there are better choices for the same or less money. The main purpose of Diaz's thread is to have the new guys or those with questions look at his list and buy without any reservations. He's done a fine job so far.
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