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Ummm, watercooling will do 5ghz, but the problem with the 8400 is the low multiplier.
You will run into problems w/ the low multi (9) before temps. I run my E8400 @ 1.538v w/ watercooling and it stays about 25c from TJMax. The new E0's dont need even that much voltage to reach 5ghz (well atleast most). With an E8600, 5ghz is plenty doable (500x10) on water IMO.
E8400, not so much (555mhz FSB is really too much for stability).
And? Whats temperature have to do with anything if its stable and within spec?
Intel states 20c from TJ is the "max safe" limit and Im already proving that 1.45v + is plenty doable w/ these chips.
I think these chips can takea lot more punishment than most people think, but alot are just too worried about killing the chip.
Ive had my chip at over 1.5v for a full month, and it was at 1.48v for about 2 weeks before that, and 6 months it was running @ 1.38v.
So I dont believe in Intel's 1.368v "safe" limit
ive hit 5.05 ghz on phase