AMD newbie here with ?

bda1967 · Sep 9, 2009

Hello. Since I have little experience with AMD cpu's I was wondering if you fine folks could answer a few questions that I have.

I have an Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2 stepping 2.2Ghz that is in a HP mobo that I would like to replace so I can overclock it. I think that I can use a AM2+ mobo correct? Also, how high of an OC can I expect and what kind of a voltage increase is the norm? If I can only get to 2.6GHz then would that warrant investing in an after market cpu cooler or would I be cranking up the vcore significantly?

Thanks for your help.

mxthunder · Sep 9, 2009

I would say at this point, it may not be worth it to upgrade to a new mobo. Things are really cheap, and you can get a PII 550 and a decent mobo for $200 bucks.

bda1967 · Sep 9, 2009

I know that I can get a better socket mobo but this is just my bench computer and I'm looking to get some overclocking practice on AMD CPU's. I'm just trying to use what I already have. I even thought about flashing the BIOS in the HP board with the ASUS update so that I could get the better BIOS and not getting a new mobo.

Niku-Sama · Sep 9, 2009

well its good that HP has started using standard mATX layouts. it sucked hard core when companies would use daughter boards and other such stuff.

i have a Biostart TA 790GX XE mobo that i am using thats mATX and it overclocks pretty well and was $69 shipped (AR) on new egg for a while there but i dont know if it is still.
either way its still cheaper than buying a new mobo and new processor like what has been mentioned.

the only thing is that i dont know if the PSU in the HP is a standard PSU or if its some propriotary connector deal, might check that out.

JimOkc · Sep 9, 2009

If the processor is socket AM2, you might look at a board that will support AM2, AM2+ (some might even do those as well as AM3). There are some decent boards out that will do you well and not cost you too much.

I know that a lot of the HP machines don't have great OC options in the BIOS. I don't know if you could use something like clockgen on it in the meantime.

Good Luck

bda1967 · Sep 10, 2009

How about this little puppy?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157160

I looked into flashing the BIOS but it's not a ASUS BIOS so it wouldn't let me use the E-Z flash utility and also I tried installing an ASUS BIOS update software, but that wouldn't work either die to no ASUS BIOS in the mobo. HP really makes things difficult for us. I supposed I could have tried to make a bootable floppy and load the BIOS that way but I just gave up and ordered the newer board. It's not worth me putting anymore time into trying to make a proprietary mobo "unproprietary".

I have some spare psu's lying around and hopefully my heatsink from the HP board will work on this new board.

bldegle2 · Sep 10, 2009

"I looked into flashing the BIOS but it's not a ASUS BIOS so it wouldn't let me use the E-Z flash utility and also I tried installing an ASUS BIOS update software, but that wouldn't work either die to no ASUS BIOS in the mobo."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

warning, trying to load up a bios that is not SPECIFICALLY made for your board (there are a few, very , very few, exceptions and there are beta's and sometimes modded bios' made by tweakers) is a recipe for disaster....

good thing you didn't use the 'force bios ' option at a command prompt...

laterzzzzz.............

bda1967 · Sep 10, 2009

Gotcha. I was curious if I could do it and since I had made up my mind to get a new board anyway, I wanted to experiment. The HP website says that the board is an ASUS A8M2N-LA mobo so I tried to install the ASUS BIOS for that mobo before I gave up on it. I stopped just short of my objective so now I will never know....

Mjolnir · Sep 10, 2009

Can I ask what you're usin this(AMD) comp for? just for fun/experimentation? Or? Cos your main rig is clearly kickass lol.

bda1967 · Sep 10, 2009

It's my work bench computer and I want to learn how to overclock AMD CPU's. My only experience is with Intel CPU's. I'm bored and want to play with it basically.

Marshmallow64 · Sep 10, 2009

Support AMD before the i5 kills them =)

Niku-Sama · Sep 10, 2009

bda1967 said:
It's my work bench computer and I want to learn how to overclock AMD CPU's. My only experience is with Intel CPU's. I'm bored and want to play with it basically.

if you want to over clock then i can only say get the biostar i mensioned earlier. i bet the asrock you linked to is limited with bios options and the TA 790GX XE has a better chipset with ACC and is one that has been able to unlock diabled cores on the X2/X3

QuietIce · Sep 11, 2009

Marshmallow64 said:
Support AMD before the i5 kills them =)

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