FEATURED Bulldozer rumors

Dolk · Jan 17, 2011

Ok here is a quick break down of Admahl's Law.

Its states that after a certain number of Cores (or any kind of parallelization) there will be a point where there will be no more increase in throughput speed.

That said, there is a formal based around this law. But there is one dead leg to the law. There has to be one core or instance of the parallelization that is does just a bit more of the work than the rest of the other cores. In other words, there is a master core.

Saaby900t · Jan 17, 2011

Dolk said:
Ok here is a quick break down of Admahl's Law.

Its states that after a certain number of Cores (or any kind of parallelization) there will be a point where there will be no more increase in throughput speed.

That said, there is a formal based around this law. But there is one dead leg to the law. There has to be one core or instance of the parallelization that is does just a bit more of the work than the rest of the other cores. In other words, there is a master core.

ain't that kinda like the cell processor. Somewhere I read that is each core does just one thing and another one puts them all togather.
From wiki
While the Cell chip can have a number of different configurations, the basic configuration is a multi-core chip composed of one "Power Processor Element" ("PPE") (sometimes called "Processing Element", or "PE"), and multiple "Synergistic Processing Elements" ("SPE").[31] The PPE and SPEs are linked together by an internal high speed bus dubbed "Element Interconnect Bus" ("EIB"). Due to the nature of its applications, Cell is optimized towards single precision floating point computation. The SPEs are capable of performing double precision calculations, albeit with an order of magnitude performance penalty.

So bulldozer is similar to Cell processor. kinda

ScorpiDragon · Jan 17, 2011

What let AMD down is that useless NUMA memory controller of theirs and if BD has that in it

, then I will not be buying AM3+ as it is nothing but a stop gap - until FM (whatever) socket arrives.

What I need is memory bandwidth and a multi-threaded CPU. :clap:

Dolk · Jan 18, 2011

I wouldn't say that Cell is like the Bulldozer.

HybridOverclock · Jan 18, 2011

This rumor is all over every single computer forum (I know b/c I'm an overclock.net member).

ChanceCoats123 · Jan 18, 2011

Lol, all over... every single? You mentioned two forums.

Just playing around.

I'm not surprised at all. This is probably the most promising architecture from Amd in a while. :thup:

Saaby900t · Jan 18, 2011

ChanceCoats123 said:
Lol, all over... every single? You mentioned two forums. Just playing around.

I'm not surprised at all. This is probably the most promising architecture from Amd in a while.

This is the most important architecture in AMD's history. Either this goes well are AMD might be looking to Team up with another company to even have a chance at intel.

Acuradude · Jan 18, 2011

Saaby900t said:
This is the most important architecture in AMD's history. Either this goes well are AMD might be looking to Team up with another company to even have a chance at intel.

very true...

Audioaficionado · Jan 18, 2011

Bulldozer has been talked about forever it seems. "Boy you just wait until Bulldozer comes out!" Even though I'm not from Missouri, AMD is still going to have to show me. :shrug:

Acuradude · Jan 18, 2011

lol yeah i cant wait for it come out i just hope its less than $300 does anyone know about how much it might be???

Saaby900t · Jan 18, 2011

Acuradude said:
lol yeah i cant wait for it come out i just hope its less than $300 does anyone know about how much it might be???

They will charge whatever the market dictates for its performance.

If it is really 20% faster than a 980x I would expect it to cost at least $500.

ChanceCoats123 · Jan 18, 2011

Or better yet, 20% faster than a 980X, and only $300!

intel would sh*t their panties!

Saaby900t · Jan 18, 2011

ChanceCoats123 said:
Or better yet, 20% faster than a 980X, and only $300! intel would sh*t their panties!

IMHO it will come down to how good the yields are!!! If they are good/great i could see 300 dollars.

HybridOverclock · Jan 19, 2011

Saaby900t said:
They will charge whatever the market dictates for its performance.
If it is really 20% faster than a 980x I would expect it to cost at least $500.

AMD isn't that stupid. That's the nice thing. For them it's always performance, not price. They offer relatively low prices even for the good things which is why people use AMD processors.

MexGT · Jan 19, 2011

I cant wait for the BD to come out, my next rig is just on hold due to I'm just waiting for that processor!!

I'm soooo impatient is so hard to wait !!

Dolk · Jan 19, 2011

actually the cost of the CPU is mostly based off the yield percentage of the die itself.

There is a slew of math formulas that determine the price of a CPU.

Angry · Jan 19, 2011

Its either gonna be BullDozer or SandyBridge for me when BD comes out....pending whichever does better at that time.

D33PJackal · Jan 19, 2011

This is going to end up a fair bit more interesting than I initially imagined.

HybridOverclock · Jan 19, 2011

It's bulldozer 100% for me because if it isn't as good, they'll probably lower the price if it doesn't seem reasonable.

Saaby900t · Jan 19, 2011

Dolk said:
actually the cost of the CPU is mostly based off the yield percentage of the die itself.

There is a slew of math formulas that determine the price of a CPU.

Saaby900t said:
IMHO it will come down to how good the yields are!!! If they are good/great i could see 300 dollars.

I was trying to say the same thing.

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