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09-21-11, 11:27 AM #1
Gigabyte Attempts to Debunk MSI's Gen3 Claims
Gigabyte and MSI are at it again...this time Gigabyte fires back at MSI on their claims that Gigabyte boards aren't really ready for native PCIe Gen3. Just like MSI, Gigabyte's presentation slides are technical in nature, and focus on the key components that require a board to be PCIe Gen3 ready. Let's take a look at the slides... ... Return to article to continue reading.
09-21-11, 10:03 PM #2
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I think the better question, is "who cares"? There isn't a card out there that is bottlenecked by an pcie x16 gen 2 slot. It was also proven an x8 pcie slot vs. an x16 pcie slot affected performance by less than 3%. All this mumbo jumbo is for people who buy sata 3 hdds. Its not like this is an AGP vs. PCIE question in the days long past. By the time there is a signifcant (more than 3-5%) bottleneck caused by pcie 2.0, the system will probably need a new cpu and mobo anyway cause those parts would also be the bottleneck.
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09-22-11, 12:39 AM #3
You might have a point, but there are many system builders out there that don't know better, such as your example about 6 Gbit/s SATA HDs. Overall, it seems to be political, and really only centered around each company's reputation.
09-22-11, 12:54 AM #4
Hey my burst speeds are better on the SATA III and the raid shows improvement
On to how I feel about this though. I do not even care about the x16 slots I want some South Bridge 3.0 love. What good is having screaming fast storage if you cant push the data up the pipe? Hell throw in some heavy USB usage and take it up to some USB 3.0 on some of this shared lane crap and you have slowdowns.People that buy OEM systems think Linux was a Charlie Brown character, a registry is something you see at target to buy shower gifts, RAM is a Dodge truck and a hard drive is DC at rush hour.Current Active Fleet:Daily Driver i7 3740QM T530Work Rig/networked backup - i7 4770K@4.4, 24GB Ram, 7850 GFX Bedroom PC - i7 870 @ 3.4, 16GB Ram, 6670 GFXHome School PC (daughter) SB Celery @1.6, 4GB Ram, On Chip GFX Living Room HTPC - Eemail@example.com GHz, 4GB RamGame Rig's (kids)- 3570K@4.7, 12GB Ram, 465GTX + 9800GT (PhysX) using intel SRT|2X A8 5500 boys toysTest Bed - In flux
09-22-11, 12:56 AM #5
Agreed JT, its wrangling for position, but purely a marketing team battle. Unfortunately however, I talk to people in Microcenters regularly - a lot of people who love to talk computer stuff but many of them not all that well informed. I think both MSI and Gigabyte know their audience well, and the flashy features and things that don't mean much of anything right now do actually win customers in many cases... For a salesman, its easy to convince someone to pay 10 bucks extra for PCIe 3.0, unless they want to save a few bucks to buy the "old" technology PCIe 2.0. Not many consumers want to buy new old tech, unless they know better that its a meaningless differentiation.
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07-27-12, 06:17 PM #7
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I've had 1 msi before, it wouldn't accept 2 ram slots as long as the 212 was on it otherwise it was fine. Proly some grounding or something but the dual core was getting long in the wind anyway.