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    Great review, Hokie.

    As for the processor...."meh."

    $1k is just to much to ask in my opinion, esp since the price hasnt dropped on a 990x.....

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    My recommendation is unless you bench or do heavy encoding where time is of the essence this platform is not worth upgrading for, it is after all targeted as an Enthusiast platform, nice to play with but way to rich to aquire as a everyday rig or for gaming.
    The 2500k/2600k remains imo still the best setup, very efficient and affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brolloks View Post
    My recommendation is unless you bench or do heavy encoding where time is of the essence this platform is not worth upgrading for, it is after all targeted as an Enthusiast platform, nice to play with but way to rich to aquire as a everyday rig or for gaming.
    The 2500k/2600k remains imo still the best setup, very efficient and affordable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brolloks View Post
    My recommendation is unless you bench or do heavy encoding where time is of the essence this platform is not worth upgrading for, it is after all targeted as an Enthusiast platform, nice to play with but way to rich to aquire as a everyday rig or for gaming.
    The 2500k/2600k remains imo still the best setup, very efficient and affordable.
    Completely agreed with this. The SB-E chips are not made for gaming of this generation and maybe not even the next until they start using heavily threaded applications. They are for workstation/benchmarking and not too much else at this point in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry View Post
    Great review, Hokie.

    As for the processor...."meh."

    $1k is just to much to ask in my opinion, esp since the price hasnt dropped on a 990x.....
    Intels flagship processors never get a noticeable price drop. They just get bought out of stock then disappear.

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    First thing I want to do this weekend is do clock for clock compatisons between a 2600k and 3930k to see if there is any gain with the new chipset, I would expect so with quad channel RAM and more cache but I don't expect more than 5-10%.

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    I told myself I was probably going to upgrade from my 920 when 2011 rolled around. Now that it is here, I find myself thinking that the $700 for the K CPU and a motherboard would be better spent on a video card, SSD, and raid storage combo for my existing rig.

    It isn't that this socket is bad, but it seems like anyone sitting on any generation of i7 quad core won't see much improvement in day to day tasks by upgrading to the newest release.

    Intel is kicking so much ass that developers seem to be 3 or so years behind the hardware curve at this point. Insane...
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    No doubt Intel's R&D is top class, I'm really impressed how they can punch out such step up technology in less than 12 months from each other, exciting for us who like to play with new stuff

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    Nice review.

    A suggestion for future folding Benchmarks, resize the columns in HFM so we can at least see what WU the benchmark was run on. Performance on 2600Ks (4.8 GHz) on normal SMP WUs in Linux vary from 25K to 45K ppd depending on the WU. 43,500ppd on p7500 isn't really Impressive, while that performance on p6058 would be fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasR View Post
    Nice review.

    A suggestion for future folding Benchmarks, resize the columns in HFM so we can at least see what WU the benchmark was run on. Performance on 2600Ks (4.8 GHz) on normal SMP WUs in Linux vary from 25K to 45K ppd depending on the WU. 43,500ppd on p7500 isn't really Impressive, while that performance on p6058 would be fantastic.
    Thanks, I'll do that. I haven't folded in a long time and had no idea the difference in WUs was so much, my apologies.

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    Great review. I'm in the same boat as everyone else thinking that unless you are a cruncher, bencher, or video encoder then you aren't getting much benefit over SB. I'm considering building a new pc, but with IB looming I'll keep being patient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    These machines only really suit massive megamultitaskers or people who crunch lots and lots of data.

    I'm sure Xeon-based datacrunching rigs based on these SNB-E chips will be very popular.
    Of course I agree completely, I was referring only to enthusiasts. More power is always useful for enterprise data crunching.
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    Hokie,
    Do you recall or can you look and see what WU the benchmark was run on?

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    To much money for what you get and gaming is the same as SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiealumnus View Post
    Thanks, I'll do that. I haven't folded in a long time and had no idea the difference in WUs was so much, my apologies.
    There's a FAH benchmarking program running around the net. http://www.avid-edge.com/fah/FAHbench_v12.zip
    It has a couple standard WU's that were "captured" (older) and the program allows you to select the WU and number of ticks (% of the WU) to fold. It'll allow you to bench a3's and a5's. The WU's are constant with the program so will allow everyone do directly compare performance using the program.

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    Let me save you some time, Ive been running 2600k vs. 3960X head to head for a few weeks now. Clock for clock, SB and SB-E perf is the same for single thread and single GPU but SB-E dominates in things like rendering, video/audio editing, or anything multi-thread. SB-E also outperforms SB in multi-GPU by 2-5% depending on the test and the GPU (better GPU = more of an advantage). Add more video cards and the perf advantage of SB-E grows more. That is it in a nutshell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brolloks View Post
    First thing I want to do this weekend is do clock for clock compatisons between a 2600k and 3930k to see if there is any gain with the new chipset, I would expect so with quad channel RAM and more cache but I don't expect more than 5-10%.
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    Great but...

    Great but... that price.... deal breaker for me.

    Sure the performance out does the BD on pretty much everything here but... the trends has been the same after AMD's Anthlon days. The thing that keeps me from ever buying the chip is it's price. That is still a bit ridiculous for me.

    Power consumption is never a concern since it only adds two or three cents to my electric bill for a high end part, but I am not willing to shell out that kind of cabbage for something I don't even know a program will ever run. I will stick with my phenom and intel celeron for now :P.

    Also, a quick hack for those who program. Turn off the freaking Intel Genuine on intel's instruction compilers. Not everyone is rich for a Intel part, and must suffice with AMD.

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