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    Might have to do with it...
    I think the ref models will be cheaper than that Gigabyte one too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87dtna View Post
    670 and 680 have the same 2gb....? I assume you mean the 7970 then? A lot of the benches are at 2560x1600.

    Honestly I've never even used more than ~900mb at 2560x1440.
    I wasn't paying attention to the 670 results, just the 680 4GB ones, sorry I didn't specify.

    When I looked at the resolution in the pictures that were posted most looked to be 1080p I think
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    Any news on the GTX 660? I am assuming a $299 price point.

    That GTX 670 is at the upper end of my spending limit, if its $399 at launch it will be too hard to wait for more news on the GTX660.

    I agree with the above poster, a 5% difference between the 670 and the 680 seems crazy , considering the $100 price difference.
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    They didn't cover OCing in that TT article, did they? Didn't see it anywhere...be interested in 680 vs 670 with both at their maximum achievable clocks. Is the 670 just a poorly binned 680? If that's the case, it might have severely limited OCing headroom, right?
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    Each card is different to compare like that isnt fair for the better clocking card, ya know? Gives you an IDEA of where they can go but....

    I wouldnt think that it would have less headroom, no. There are other changes that could balance that out (less shaders as the 670 is cut back).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EarthDog View Post
    Each card is different to compare like that isnt fair for the better clocking card, ya know? Gives you an IDEA of where they can go but....

    I wouldnt think that it would have less headroom, no. There are other changes that could balance that out (less shaders as the 670 is cut back).
    if it is like the 570 vs 580 then it might overclock lowe, more comes into play than just the silicon. since the 570 had a bad habit of developing exploding VRM's when overclocking.
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    when i look at those graphs i just kind of laugh.

    1 it almost seems rigged.

    but 2 it really shows the negative effects of amd clocking their cards so low when they could have been much more competitive at like 1100 core and say 1500 mem or so.
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    That and also they must use original cd drivers for testing...humf
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    Quote Originally Posted by SF101 View Post
    when i look at those graphs i just kind of laugh.

    1 it almost seems rigged.

    but 2 it really shows the negative effects of amd clocking their cards so low when they could have been much more competitive at like 1100 core and say 1500 mem or so.

    I agree somewhat...I'll believe it when more reviews come out from sources such as Toms hardware and Guru3D. I just find it hard to believe only 5% difference when there's 15% less shaders at a lower clockspeed.

    On the AMD clocks, well we've seen no 670 overclocking reviews yet either and I was really shocked at how well 680's overclock so I believe as far as overclocking they are at a level playing field.
    And I'm not being a Nvidia fanboy here, just stating what I've noticed in my experiences....and that is Nvidia cards overclock seems to go further than AMD's....meaning just to throw some numbers out as an example a 100mhz overclock on a Nvidia card equals the same performance gain percentage wise as a 150mhz overclock on an AMD card. *Now I'm just using those numbers as an example nothing factual or legit about those numbers thats strictly a guess based on my experiences*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87dtna View Post
    I agree somewhat...I'll believe it when more reviews come out from sources such as Toms hardware and Guru3D. I just find it hard to believe only 5% difference when there's 15% less shaders at a lower clockspeed.

    On the AMD clocks, well we've seen no 670 overclocking reviews yet either and I was really shocked at how well 680's overclock so I believe as far as overclocking they are at a level playing field.
    And I'm not being a Nvidia fanboy here, just stating what I've noticed in my experiences....and that is Nvidia cards overclock seems to go further than AMD's....meaning just to throw some numbers out as an example a 100mhz overclock on a Nvidia card equals the same performance gain percentage wise as a 150mhz overclock on an AMD card. *Now I'm just using those numbers as an example nothing factual or legit about those numbers thats strictly a guess based on my experiences*.
    If you going to make statements like nVidia overclocks further than the AMD and has higher scaling percentage then please back it up as so far that does not seem to be reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frakk View Post
    If you going to make statements like nVidia overclocks further than the AMD
    WTF seriously? I totally explained what I meant after I said Nvidia overclock seems to go further than AMD's......NOT talking about ability to overclock further but that the same overclock in MHZ gives more gain on Nvidia cards.

    I have no AMD cards to test right nowand show results with but having owned and benched over 60 cards I do remember this.
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    just stating what I've noticed in my experiences....and that is Nvidia cards overclock seems to go further than AMD's....meaning just to throw some numbers out as an example a 100mhz overclock on a Nvidia card equals the same performance gain percentage wise as a 150mhz overclock on an AMD card.
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    I edited my previous post....you are taking my statement of Nvidia overclock goes further out of context. I NEVER stated that nvidia cards can overclock more mhz than AMD.

    And also I noticed that you conveniently cut my disclaimer out of stating that these numbers are not factual just examples to show my point. I don't know what the exact numbers are I'm simply stating it's something I've observed benching so many cards the last 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87dtna View Post
    I edited my previous post....you are taking my statement of Nvidia overclock goes further out of context. I NEVER stated that nvidia cards can overclock more mhz than AMD.
    Not out of context, simply a miss read if you like
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    I haven't overclocked the 680's much yet, but i can say this i managed a easy 250+ mhz increase on air without even touching the voltages.

    But there is one huge flaw right now with the 680's which might be part of the reason why the benchmark results between the two cards are so close. The 300 series drivers are extremely buggy. I am not sure if they are actually under utilizing the 680's or if there are reporting problems for monitoring stilll, but i have ran into alot of stupid power management glitching. (Ie card swapping to lower power states when it shouldn't be) I sent nvidia a email asking about it but haven't gotten any responses back yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsunamiJuan View Post
    I haven't overclocked the 680's much yet, but i can say this i managed a easy 250+ mhz increase on air without even touching the voltages.

    But there is one huge flaw right now with the 680's which might be part of the reason why the benchmark results between the two cards are so close. The 300 series drivers are extremely buggy. I am not sure if they are actually under utilizing the 680's or if there are reporting problems for monitoring stilll, but i have ran into alot of stupid power management glitching. (Ie card swapping to lower power states when it shouldn't be) I sent nvidia a email asking about it but haven't gotten any responses back yet.
    Unless you modded it, you cant touch the voltages as it automatically changes.

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    @ Don,- Did you do those?
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