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"Friends don't let friends drive Thermaltake"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I plead the Fifth.
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"Friends don't let friends drive Thermaltake"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And that isn't even good....so really all you get is a functional res out of the whole deal.
I'll second the H60. It gave my Phenom II X4 955 new life. With the stock cooler it would always run 70-80C while playing games. I had to stop Prime95 after a few minutes after the CPU temp exceeded 80C. After I installed the H60 the CPU with Prime95 ran 45-50C. Now I am folding 24/7 with this computer.you guys are so right about the thermaltake, i think it heats the cpu!!!!!!!!
so, I have the thing, it does very little other than dumps all its heat into the drive bays, I have had to cut it's housing because it does not fit with an atx board. so i'll mod the crappy thing. first up plumbing in my h60 rad.
so here is what the guy can take from this,
#1 the h60 is good value for the money, quiet, cheap, reliable.
#2 the h100 is almost up to the task, noisy, very costly because you need to buy two so your system is useable while in rma land and you need to supply your own fans, unreliable.
#3 the themal take is just horrid in all ways and fits like a size 6 shoe on a size 10 foot.
#4 the top air coolers are cheaper, quieter, and cost a lot less if you can fit them in your case.
that sound accurate?
Don't let anyone trash talk anything in this kit either because the reality is that the pump is silent and performs almost as well as the all mighty D5 as long as its not restricted
Also to take any FEAR out of a leak order Fesser One Cooling Fluid you can poor it all over your electronics and it wont cause a short.
Since this is your first set up ignore the any PROS/HARDCORE WC ENTHUSIASTS and stay away of the unsightly expensive gear. Start with this kit it is very upgradable and if you want you can even add a second pump in series either another XSPC X20 750 or a D5 they scale perfectly almost no loss in effecency almost like just adding the power of each one together and gives you redundency. With a failed pump the active pump will also still run at 80-95% of its ability even pushing through the failed pump so again no waste in money with the pump they include because if you ever need a better pump just buy another pump!
Can you please tell me when, in the course of watercooling, the pump is going to be unrestricted? If it's not restricted, you don't have a block...and if you don't have a block, what are you even cooling?
Or just use distilled water and don't worry about clogging your loop...or staining your tubes...or buying into marketing hype. conductivity of distilled water
I can't IMAGINE why you would recommend that he disregard the advice of people who are pulling on a decade of knowledge, experimentation, and experience with watercooling PCs...it just doesn't make sense. The guys around here who have been around a long time say the things they do for a reason, it's because they've seen it all, and they know what works and what doesn't.
Also, the pump advice is awful advice. You should never run different pumps in series, you overwork the stronger pump and overspin the weaker pump and BOTH of them will lose lifespan.
I'm not gonna advocate against the XSPC kits, they're decent, but I will tell you that if you get them and then decide you want to make changes, you're pretty much gonna have to ditch the pump/res, and usually people get rid of the block too (since it's middle of the line). So really, it boils down to you having two options, do it right up front and minimize costs overall, or do it cheap up front then end up with a bunch of stuff you don't need as you make cheap upgrades. Neither method is wrong. Personally, I think it makes more sense to wait till you can afford the whole thing then pull the trigger, but I can certainly see the other side of that coin, so I'm not going to try to convince you one way or the other.