3D Mark 11 scores, down with HD7970?

Pierre3400 · Nov 6, 2012

Hey guys,

I am very curious as to why on earth my 3D Mark scores (free version P scores) are slower with my new HD7970 then what my HD6950 use to produce?

My HD6950 overclocked would score around 9000, when i had GTx590, i was in the 9400 range.

I just ran a test on my HD7970, and got a disappointing 8742?
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4863139

The only change really is i'v gone from 8Gb ram to 12gb ram and then the HD7970, could this be the ram giving my such a performance drop?
(i sold the old ram, so cant test it with that)

But could it really be?

mattspalace · Nov 6, 2012

The score for your 7970 is comparable to most reviews - about 100 points higher on your side of things.

GTX590 is typically around 9000, and I'm shocked you had a single HD6950 scoring in the 9000 range - you sure that wasn't two??

Just for comparison, my GTX 670 FTW scores 9090 points.

Pierre3400 · Nov 6, 2012

mattspalace said:
The score for your 7970 is comparable to most reviews - about 100 points higher on your side of things.

GTX590 is typically around 9000, and I'm shocked you had a single HD6950 scoring in the 9000 range - you sure that wasn't two??

Just for comparison, my GTX 670 FTW scores 9090 points.

Maybe i remember wrong, i wish i had kept the scores written down, but im sure my GTx590 score in 9300 range. I would have thought the 7970 would be above 9000, but hey, thats how it is.

notJUSTguitar · Nov 6, 2012

With 12.11 drivers and my 2600K at 5Ghz, I get P10465 with my MSI 7970 lighting at stock. When I overclock it, I get P11428 marks.
With your CPU/GPU at stock clocks, that looks like a normal score. Even overclocking your cpu/gpu a bit will really up your score.

And, you can see the scores I got here (scroll down to the 12.11b4 results):http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719370

EDIT: And there's no way a single 6950 should be able to get that high of a score, so you may be remembering wrong.
With my 2600K at 5.4Ghz and a 6970 overclocked, I got to around P8500 marks.

jd101 · Nov 6, 2012

your score sounds about right for stock speeds . just oc it and get p10,000 score easy with your rig here mine with some old beta drivers http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4009757 .

Pierre3400 · Nov 6, 2012

notJUSTguitar said:
With 12.11 drivers and my 2600K at 5Ghz, I get P10465 with my MSI 7970 lighting at stock. When I overclock it, I get P11428 marks.
With your CPU/GPU at stock clocks, that looks like a normal score. Even overclocking your cpu/gpu a bit will really up your score.

And, you can see the scores I got here (scroll down to the 12.11b4 results):http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719370

EDIT: And there's no way a single 6950 should be able to get that high of a score, so you may be remembering wrong.
With my 2600K at 5.4Ghz and a 6970 overclocked, I only got to around P8400 marks I believe.

Yeh i must be remembering 8000 as 9000, cos the GTx590 scored 9300ish.

mattspalace · Nov 6, 2012

7970 turns into a real beast when properly overclocked. You should get well into the 9000s when you crank it up.

hokiealumnus · Nov 6, 2012

If you want the show-off scores, you need to use CCC and disable Tessellation. That's only used in HWBot benching though. For proper eye candy (and for reviews we write), I always leave Tessellation at the default CCC setting.

As mentioned, your score is about right for a stock 7970; nothing to worry about. There's no way a 6950 scored anywhere near 9000. Probably less than 6000 is my guess. :thup:

Pierre3400 · Nov 6, 2012

hokiealumnus said:
If you want the show-off scores, you need to use CCC and disable Tessellation. That's only used in HWBot benching though. For proper eye candy (and for reviews we write), I always leave Tessellation at the default CCC setting.

As mentioned, your score is about right for a stock 7970; nothing to worry about. There's no way a 6950 scored anywhere near 9000. Probably less than 6000 is my guess.

6000, dont kid lol, if i hadnt overclocked it too far i would redo it, but it was with different mobo/cpu and ram setup, plus nice oc on the 6950, and i was around the 8000s properly, my mind just playing tricks, since the lastest test i ran was with GTx590 scoring around 9300.

EDIT
Was able to dig out my GTx590 score.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4755482

jd101 · Nov 6, 2012

with my 6950 flashed and oc to 950mhz . my gpu score was around 5600 . i carnt see a 6950 in the 8000s either .

Ivy · Nov 6, 2012

Reaching 6000 with a 6950 was a challenge and i dont see the score going much higher than that unless its some LN2 stuff, but not on air. So it was more like 6000 points and in no way 9000.

A 7970 can easely run into the 10 000 range, so in that case its competing with a 6990 or 590 GTX (dual cores from previous generation), but it will be about 40% weaker than a 690 GTX as far as i remember (compared with a highly OC 7970 Matrix/DCII). Prehaps the soon to be released 8970 may come very close to the 690 GTX when OC, so its surely not worth it to get a GTX 690 at that point, unless someone want to waste money because the Radeon will cost half of that and may reach almost same performance in many terms.

notJUSTguitar · Nov 6, 2012

jd101 said:
with my 6950 flashed and oc to 950mhz . my gpu score was around 5600 . i carnt see a 6950 in the 8000s either .

Sorry, my mistake. I found the run: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/2762372
That's with tessellation disabled in CCC.

Pierre3400 · Nov 7, 2012

My memory must be asleep.. But oh well, if the scores are like they should be, then all is good i presume.

Replacing my 2x OCZ 2Gb rams stick today with some 1333Mhz.

DOM. · Nov 7, 2012

Why 1333mhz ram ? I would go with 1600mhz+

Ivy can run 2400mhz + on avg.

It also helps in 3dmark11 score higher mem speed

I ran with stock 3770k 1600mhz ram 7970@ 1050/1500 scored 10k

Pierre3400 · Nov 7, 2012

DOM. said:
Why 1333mhz ram ? I would go with 1600mhz+

Ivy can run 2400mhz + on avg.

It also helps in 3dmark11 score higher mem speed

I ran with stock 3770k 1600mhz ram 7970@ 1050/1500 scored 10k

Im looking at buying Corsair Vengence 1866Mhz, or 2133Mhz (but they dont come in black

) So im looking at 16gb 2x8 Vengence 1866Mhz.

Reason for getting 2x 2gb to replace my OCZ, so all are running 1333, until i buy new. I already have 1x2gb 1333mhz, and the other is free, so its not a money loss, its just a getting all same speeds ram situation. The 2x4gb kingston normally run in my HTPC.

DOM. · Nov 7, 2012

These are the 2400 I have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313235

I hope they still make them :S

I've ran them up to 2800

There also black hs

Pierre3400 · Nov 7, 2012

DOM. said:
These are the 2400 I have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313235

I hope they still make them :S

I've ran them up to 2800

There also black hs

Price is of concern too, and its alot cheaper in the states

Ajay57 · Nov 7, 2012

Hey Pierre i got over 9000 with mine my friend?

1,http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4868966

Sorry just a bit of fun guy's?

Pierre3400 · Nov 7, 2012

Ajay57 said:
Hey Pierre i got over 9000 with mine my friend?

1,http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4868966

Sorry just a bit of fun guy's?

Im running stock clocks all over..I'll catch you one day...

Ajay57 · Nov 7, 2012

Not if i get there first Pierre my friend hi hi. AJ

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