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Ivy Bridge Cheap TIM Between DIE and IHS.
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I'm one of the guys who did "gut the thing", as you put it. I've actually done 2, a 3570k that I killed benching and a 3770k that I'm running now. Why? Because I like to putz, and I just can't leave well enough alone. What did it gain me? A few MHz, and I can turn my fans down a little bit. That being said, I've been there, done that, been impressed, and now I'm over it. I'll be picking up another 3770K very soon for a benching dedicated rig, and I'm not doing it to that one. It is NOT necessary. I was an advocate of it when I first did mine, but I don't recommend it any longer. I've seen too many mutilated chips, too many bent pins, too much wasted money. If you're running stock clocks, the chip is running well within design parameters, so there's really no point. Even with moderate overclocks and voltages, you're not likely going to reach tjmax unless something else is wrong. I'll be honest, I'm not crazy about the design (TIM, gap, etc.) either, but I figure the engineers at intel know more than I do, and they're good with it. Does that make me a fanboy? 
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You probably don't care but 100c is boiling so if your cpu is at 94c you should be going
then 
then 
with an alarm screaming catastrophic failure in you face. Just saying. 
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I am running a new 3770k stock with intel heatsink and f@h on 24/7, highest my temps get it 71C on 2 cores....
this is also in Costa Rica where avg temp is around 20-22C and even hotter in the day...
This has NOTHING to do with liking intel, fact is AMD is slow, power hungry and runs HOTTER than intel right now...
How is the CPU made cheaply? It is made with in specifications and runs with in specifications set by intel..
So should we now say all CPU's are cheap because the stock cooler doesn't run the processor 20C cooler like a water kit would....
Same with Video cards.. heck, we should complain about hard drives having no cooler at all cause one would make it run cooler and thus last longer....
I guess it is all made cheaply then...
this is also in Costa Rica where avg temp is around 20-22C and even hotter in the day...
This has NOTHING to do with liking intel, fact is AMD is slow, power hungry and runs HOTTER than intel right now...
How is the CPU made cheaply? It is made with in specifications and runs with in specifications set by intel..
So should we now say all CPU's are cheap because the stock cooler doesn't run the processor 20C cooler like a water kit would....
Same with Video cards.. heck, we should complain about hard drives having no cooler at all cause one would make it run cooler and thus last longer....
I guess it is all made cheaply then...
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You probably don't care but 100c is boiling so if your cpu is at 94c you should be going
Boiling it may be, but the chip is rated for 105c (110c?), Intel believes it can run at that temp and stock volts/clocks for long enough to make it out of warranty.
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still if it is geting to 100c then some thing is very very wrong. and is NOT normal. unless you are trying to wreck the thing then it is fine to have a cpu go to 100c. imho
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Do not worry about the TIM issue, the CPU will work fine, only reason to do the delidding is if you want to do extreme overclocking. Mine did 4.5ghz without delidding happily, but I wanted more and that's the only reason I delidded... and only got a 12C improvement at the same speed.
I can tell you there is no point even running an aftermarket cooler if you're only running it at stock, I used the stock HS/f for a week and managed 4Ghz stable...
pfft... I ran a I7 950 @ 95C for over a year with no issues. and that has only a 100C TJmax
I can tell you there is no point even running an aftermarket cooler if you're only running it at stock, I used the stock HS/f for a week and managed 4Ghz stable...
You probably don't care but 100c is boiling so if your cpu is at 94c you should be going
pfft... I ran a I7 950 @ 95C for over a year with no issues. and that has only a 100C TJmax
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It won't hurt it at stock voltages.
It will not wreck it.
It will not damage it.
That said, it shouldn't get that hot if the cooler is working.
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and that right there is why I said what I said if cooled corectly it should not get to 100c
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still if it dose reach 95c then there is something wrong some where. (ie fans)
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Don't forget the other half to your statements, that the CPU would die so you should delid to drop the temps. Which it won't, and you shouldn't.
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ok.what I meant is that if the cpu get to 94c then there is something wrong.I am aqually with ED on this topic.So yea I guess how I wrote my statments were confiusiong/not what I meant. sorry .
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can't be good for it though right?
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oh... ok but still in genral if cooled correctly the cpu should not get ot 100c whic his the whole point of all my posts... atleast that is my intent.
Say what you mean in that case...LOL! Your first two posts straight said that temp will kill the CPU, then you came back with something different. All good and all, but that wasnt what was posted which is why a couple people took the time to correct it.
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yea, don't post if you are tired or in a hurry.
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