Pierre3400's Enthoo Primo Build

Raksasa said:

I basically want to do it once & do it right, w/o cramming stuff into PC case. Also it should cool anything I decide to throw at it.

Wish me luck !!!

Cheers,

Raksy

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remember to post a build log with lotsa pix !

RnRollie said:

remember to post a build log with lotsa pix !

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Cheers RnRollie,

It will be a loooonnnnggggg build log. Really gonna take my time with it as it is my first WCed PC. Will wet a Devil's Canyon and a reference GTX 780ti first up.

Still doing tons of research and won't know the exact configuration until I mount the MO-RA3 into the TX10 pedestal and have it right in front of me. Hopefully plenty of room left over.

The pedestal and the Watercool gear should be here in the next week or so.

Raksy

Not to go off topic here, don't mind me Pierre but we're you talking about something like this in the video Raksasa? You can see he has a MORA rad up top and still has space. My goodness, love that case. Looks like I can hang a few fur coats in there.

GTXJackBauer said:

Not to go off topic here, don't mind me Pierre but we're you talking about something like this in the video Raksasa? You can see he has a MORA rad up top and still has space. My goodness, love that case. Looks like I can hang a few fur coats in there.

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Hi Jack,

I will PM you, if that's OK, as I do not want to derail Pierre's awesome build thread any further. I haven't set up a build thread yet, but may happen soon.

TO PIERRE - apologies for my enthusiasm carrying on into uncharted waters, in your charted sea.

Raksasa said:

Hi Jack,

I will PM you, if that's OK, as I do not want to derail Pierre's awesome build thread any further. I haven't set up a build thread yet, but may happen soon.

TO PIERRE - apologies for my enthusiasm carrying on into uncharted waters, in your charted sea.

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No worries

Update.

This update has nothing to do with the build, but its part of the rig non the less.

Today we saw the 4790K hit the benching tables. I had one on pre-order. It has now been cancelled, as the results in no way could justify swapping 4770K to 4790K.

What did end up happening was a brief talk in the haswell thread, and then one thing lead to another. Short story, i did a de-lid on my 4770K.

First off, of course i took out the CPU. It was mounted with Coollabs Ultra, and this stuff, well im not happy with the results after months of use.




All looks pretty fine on those pics, but once the parts are cleaned off, thats a different story.


Notice the spots on the left of the CPU and also the center of the CPU is discolored?

I forgot to take pics of the CPU block, but lets just say, it use to have a mirror finish, and now it does not. The Ultra if it hardens is impossible to removed without using something the scratches up a nice surface.

Right, moving on.

Another picture of the CPU.


De-lid time!


As you may be able to see, i used the vice method, worked like a charm.

I cleaned the CPU and IHS, and then went home to lap it. Well lapping was never the intention but I have always had an ide this cpu and the 3770K i had before, both were/are concave. The mess left behind by the Ultra just made me want to lap the IHS while i was messing with it, so thats what happened.

Before any work.


I started with Wet/dry sandpaper (of course wet) Grit 400.





Then on to Grit 1000


Grit 2000



Ready for install!


Installed, ready for thermal paste!



Between IHS and CPU i have used Coollabs Ultra, and between block and IHS i have used Arctic MX-2.

Results so far

Before 4.4Ghz @ 1.28v Cpu would sit at 85/88degrees under Prime95

Now, after 30mins of Prim95
4,5Ghz @ 1.30v, CPU temp = 66degrees.

So far, big improvement.

It lasted about 1½hours at 4.5ghz at 1.30, never went above 67degrees.

I moved up to 1.33v volt now, seeing 69degrees top now.

Awesome stuff Pierre. I had heard that delidders were getting up to 10 degrees improvement, but 20 frickin' degrees !!!! WTF !!???!!

Hmmmm. Goodonya Intel, NOT !!!

Raksasa said:

Awesome stuff Pierre. I had heard that delidders were getting up to 10 degrees improvement, but 20 frickin' degrees !!!! WTF !!???!!

Hmmmm. Goodonya Intel, NOT !!!

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its all depends on the chip you have. if you have chip with a poor tim (under the die and IHS) to start from. de-lidding will help out a lot. for his case. the chip stock was hitting VERY high temps at low voltages/clocks

this is the main reason why i stuck with my 2600K. its a 3 year old chip that (clock for clock) with haswell, does not see a big increase in performance to justify upgrading IMO. if i upgrade my cpu/motherboard. its for a 6 core chip. (maybe an 8 core if one comes out at around the $500 price point but i dont see that happening)



Pierre, what tim are you using under the IHS?

I can attest to that i got a 24c drop on hottest core 94c to barely 70c under prime 95 running 4.5Ghz @1.265 rock steady.

atm743 said:

Pierre, what tim are you using under the IHS?

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"Between IHS and CPU i have used Coollabs Ultra,"

6hours prim95 now. maxing 71 as a top, hangs around 66degrees.

Saw your build, its pretty damn nice. *claps* I have the same case (with some pics in the wc stickied thread) and I have a few questions as I bought the case secondhand.
Do you have a hard time seeing in through the window? Mine's pretty tinted and seems to block out just about all light in the center. Also is there supposed to be a LED for the power button as I have the strips along the right side but nothing for the button.
Thanks!

wow.......amazing build good job sir!

snowbrdd said:

Saw your build, its pretty damn nice. *claps* I have the same case (with some pics in the wc stickied thread) and I have a few questions as I bought the case secondhand.
Do you have a hard time seeing in through the window? Mine's pretty tinted and seems to block out just about all light in the center. Also is there supposed to be a LED for the power button as I have the strips along the right side but nothing for the button.
Thanks!

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The window is tinted, and we (the pirmo users) have asked for a clear version, dont know if we will ever get one. Becomes easy to see threw with light inside.

There have been reports of LEDs on strips not working, but not full strips, they are plugged in behind the front panel, check there.

So today i got my order from Lutro0, which cost my a stupid amount to ship over.

And its just about all wrong. Out of a total of 27 items, 20 of them are wrong.

So i am not even going to show anything, because i feel its worthless to my build at moment.

Pierre3400 said:

So today i got my order from Lutro0, which cost my a stupid amount to ship over.

And its just about all wrong. Out of a total of 27 items, 20 of them are wrong.

So i am not even going to show anything, because i feel its worthless to my build at moment.

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Please explain.

GTXJackBauer said:

Please explain.

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Well i bought stuff for cable management, but her sent me the wrong types. I wanted combs, and got the ones to thread cables threw.

Wrote an email, no reply.

i have had a similar experience with lutro....

i ordered coreless paracord and got nylon... and instead of getting a paracord feeder and atx pin removal i just got 2 atx pin removal tools.... i sent them 2 emails and never got a response so i just let it go

ended up getting the paracord from a military surplus store for cheaper lmao

weakssauce said:

i have had a similar experience with lutro....

i ordered coreless paracord and got nylon... and instead of getting a paracord feeder and atx pin removal i just got 2 atx pin removal tools.... i sent them 2 emails and never got a response so i just let it go

ended up getting the paracord from a military surplus store for cheaper lmao

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A perfect example why "specialist" WC/Modding should not (always) be the first place to send your money to.
It's ok to look, thou But then you should ask yourself "what exactly am i looking at? Did i not see something similar at <HW/DIY/CarParts/Plumbing/etc>-store?"

A bit thinking outside the box people

Example: fittings & barbs are available in any DIY/Plumbing shop. They dont look as good as Bitspower... but they are a LOT cheaper"

Sorry for hijack
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