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Will XP satisfactorily support an SSD drive? Not out of necessity but our of curiosity.
Any caveats?
Any caveats?
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XP and SSD Drives
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ED, Scotty,
I didn't know any of this. Regardless of XP's SSD support shortcomings it's safe to assume it's still better than a hard drive that needs to be replaced.
Thank you both.
I didn't know any of this. Regardless of XP's SSD support shortcomings it's safe to assume it's still better than a hard drive that needs to be replaced.
Thank you both.
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Will XP run on an SSD? Yes. All posts above are relevant and accurate. Let me add that encryption may be an issue too, if the drive supports it.
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OK, good points. This is for the non-Internet unit in my profile. A home unit that needs to retain XP
for the purpose of using older .dbf databases so encryption and lacking all the SSD performance enhancers
are not a deal breaker. The databases are not compatible with anything newer than versions of XP / XP Pro
and I really don't want to move to Access now.
for the purpose of using older .dbf databases so encryption and lacking all the SSD performance enhancers
are not a deal breaker. The databases are not compatible with anything newer than versions of XP / XP Pro
and I really don't want to move to Access now.
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How did you.... I was literally just thinking about that (in regards to some old friends). Here's what I know:
The alignment is quite important for the speed. Make sure you do it.
The lack of trim is a problem with vista and xp. Don't use a sandforce drive. Use any drive that has good performance recovery without trim-- like the neutron, or samsung's drives.
And you're golden.
The alignment is quite important for the speed. Make sure you do it.
The lack of trim is a problem with vista and xp. Don't use a sandforce drive. Use any drive that has good performance recovery without trim-- like the neutron, or samsung's drives.
And you're golden.
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Drive is a retail Intel 520 120GB.
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As far as I'm aware, Scott, that's not correct. Here's where I learned about sandforce's weakness in trim-lacking environments.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4256/the-ocz-vertex-3-review-120gb/13
Look at the "After Torture" table. This is what your drive will become over time. 38MBs is pretty darn slow for an ssd.
RT: You'll probably be okay, though. You won't be writing much data to the drive, will you? This will only become a problem once you've written to all the blocks. Which is a little over 120GBs of data.
Edit 2: Furthermore, here's what a samsung 830 with good garbage collection can do without trim. It's pretty cool!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4863/the-samsung-ssd-830-review/6
Edit 3: Sorry for all the edits. Apparently the 520's firmware is much better than the vertex 3's. Here's the worst it should get on xp:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5508/...cherryville-brings-reliability-to-sandforce/7
Which is probably more than fast enough for you, RT. I wouldn't worry about it.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4256/the-ocz-vertex-3-review-120gb/13
Look at the "After Torture" table. This is what your drive will become over time. 38MBs is pretty darn slow for an ssd.
RT: You'll probably be okay, though. You won't be writing much data to the drive, will you? This will only become a problem once you've written to all the blocks. Which is a little over 120GBs of data.
Edit 2: Furthermore, here's what a samsung 830 with good garbage collection can do without trim. It's pretty cool!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4863/the-samsung-ssd-830-review/6
Edit 3: Sorry for all the edits. Apparently the 520's firmware is much better than the vertex 3's. Here's the worst it should get on xp:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5508/...cherryville-brings-reliability-to-sandforce/7
Which is probably more than fast enough for you, RT. I wouldn't worry about it.
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What's not correct?
Here's my 5 year old SF drive. Original OS install BTW, on my daily task machine.
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I should have been more clear. Sandforce controllers become irrecoverably slow in no-trim environments. Most other controller types don't.
As you can see with your drive there, the speeds are quite poor. Take a look at this anandtech review:
http://anandtech.com/show/3656/corsairs-force-ssd-reviewed-sf1200-is-very-good
It's almost identical to your drive in specs, but look at the performance delta. Ouch. XP's not treating that drive well.
As you can see with your drive there, the speeds are quite poor. Take a look at this anandtech review:
http://anandtech.com/show/3656/corsairs-force-ssd-reviewed-sf1200-is-very-good
It's almost identical to your drive in specs, but look at the performance delta. Ouch. XP's not treating that drive well.
IT'S 5 YEARS OLD......on the same OS install...ran 24/7.
It's write speed was 120 brand new.
Technology advances. Brand new it was never as fast as todays drives.
Besides, that's not my point. The point was, XP on a SSD is fine, garbage collection works independently of the OS as it's firmware driven, and trim does work via software.
Even at that, it's still 10x faster than a spinner.
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Scott. You know I'm not picking on you. Don't be mad 
120 write speed is slow for that drive. XP didn't treat it well, and it has degraded from there. I'm not disparaging your system, dude.
Magellan, my rotating 7200 disks can handle over 100 MB/s sustained. My newest one is close to 150! <3 <3 Normally I hate rotating disks, but I needed the capacity, lol.
120 write speed is slow for that drive. XP didn't treat it well, and it has degraded from there. I'm not disparaging your system, dude.
Magellan, my rotating 7200 disks can handle over 100 MB/s sustained. My newest one is close to 150! <3 <3 Normally I hate rotating disks, but I needed the capacity, lol.
