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LG G3 Thoughts & First Impressions
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Would you mind taking a macro shot? Also have you managed to use the IR transmitter?
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Sure, I'll try to get one tomorrow.
I use the IR transmitter to control our TV, cable box and receiver. It's also fun for a party trick to mess with friends/family. Aside from that I haven't tried to do anything else.
I use the IR transmitter to control our TV, cable box and receiver. It's also fun for a party trick to mess with friends/family. Aside from that I haven't tried to do anything else.
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its also fun to change the channel with while out at a restaurant, or a bar!
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Thanks for the picture. I cracked the screen on my S3 for the 2nd time and am considering upgrading to the newer generation. I'm still clinging to my unlimited data plan, so its gonna cost me.
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Yea, system updates on this phone are aggressive. That's part of why I ditched stock and went with a custom ROM from the beginning, so I'd have control over when/if it upgraded (and could hold off to see other people's experiences with them).
On the plus side though, it's nice to hear they have actually started updating in the US! What carrier are you using? I'd like to try going back to a stock-based ROM, mostly for the camera. I use a flashable Motorola camera on my AOSP ROM and it takes good photos, it's just not as full featured as the stock camera.
If you really want to be rid of stock 5.0 for now, you can always downgrade back to an earlier build, root & install TWRP, then install a custom stock-based ROM that won't allow updates. All the benefits of a stock ROM with none of the bloat! I'd recommend SkyDragon ROM if you're on Verizon.
On the plus side though, it's nice to hear they have actually started updating in the US! What carrier are you using? I'd like to try going back to a stock-based ROM, mostly for the camera. I use a flashable Motorola camera on my AOSP ROM and it takes good photos, it's just not as full featured as the stock camera.
If you really want to be rid of stock 5.0 for now, you can always downgrade back to an earlier build, root & install TWRP, then install a custom stock-based ROM that won't allow updates. All the benefits of a stock ROM with none of the bloat! I'd recommend SkyDragon ROM if you're on Verizon.
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Or, perhaps it's using RAM for what RAM is for. If it isn't in use, it's wasted.
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what I am saying is its holding on to and caching apps in the ram I'm not even using and then when something goes to start up that I do use it stalls it because it almost refuses to make room.
my ram shouldn't be maxed out with ebay, browser and standard stock apps. a lot of the bload has been disabled and I verified they weren't running
4.x.x didn't do that
my ram shouldn't be maxed out with ebay, browser and standard stock apps. a lot of the bload has been disabled and I verified they weren't running
4.x.x didn't do that
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Well, it's supposed to use the RAM for sure. It will load it up with applications you've used recently, that's by design. However, it should have no trouble making room as needed when you run new apps. If it's not doing that, that's definitely a problem. I have no such issues on Lollipop, but I'm on an AOSP-based ROM, not stock based (stupid Verizon...)
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*WARNING* - There have been at least two known hard bricks using this method. It has worked successfully for many people, including myself three times. However, with two hard bricks, this isn't something to go into without at least considering the possibility. The standard warning has always been in this thread (second paragraph), but consider yourself doubly warned. Now that we have root and TWRP on 5.0 stock, this method is all but obsolete. We're just waiting on the good devs to bring us superb Lollipop stock ROMs like SkyDragon by [MENTION=1211160]HolyAngel[/MENTION] and Jasmine by [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION]. Once those are out, this method should really only be used if you need "official" software on your phone. Or you can just wait for Verizon to push the actual OTA, which is probably technically safer than any custom flashing methods there are.
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**NOTE** - There are two stellar custom-stock ROMs here in the form of Jasmine v.5.0 and SkyDragon 3.0.0. There is no longer any need to use this method to upgrade to stock LP unless you just really need the software status to say "official". Download link & instructions at the following links:
SkyDragon G3 VS985 Edition Version 3.0.0
JasmineROM v5.0 Release [LP] [Stock] [Rooted] [Unmodified]
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Well, if you've been following along at XDA, Verizon's version of stock Lollipop for the G3 has leaked! It's annoying that there is no root yet, but that doesn't stop a flash addict like me, especially when there is an easy way to get all of your apps restored from Titanium Backup before losing root.
The good news is that you can downgrade back to 10B (the only root-able version) at any time and get back to rooted goodness and flashing rooted stock-KK or AOSP-Lollipop. I'm hopeful we'll get root eventually for stock Lollipop, but it's too soon for that.
Now I thought I'd type up a quick and easy how-to for upgrading to stock Lollipop on the G3 for anyone interested in trying it out! Please note NONE of this information is original to me. All credit goes to the respective posters at XDA.
First, you need to download several files. The first several have to do with KDZ'ing back to 10B, followed by 12B (you WILL LOSE DATA going back to 10B...back up everything!).
Things you will need:
Drivers from LG for the G3.
Two files from this download page - the 10B KDZ file (VS98510B_01.kdz) and the 23A update file (LG_VS985_12B-23A.dlpkgfile).
The 12B KDZ file. (Alternate mirror.)
The LG Flash Tool 2014 (originally from this thread).
Now that you have those, we can move on to the directions. To KDZ back to 10B (followed by 12B after a few interim steps), you need to follow the procedure outlined here by annoyingduck. I'm quoting everything so it's all in one post, but linking back so those who made it get all the credit.
When flashing the 10B KDZ, you must use the "CSE Flash" option, because you're downgrading and getting rid of everything on your phone. To repeat - you will lose ALL data, so copy your TiBu folder, your photos, files, etc. elsewhere first.
Ok, now that you're back to 10B, it's time to do some work there. You need to root your phone, install Titanium Backup and restore your backed up apps & their data. I prefer to use the IOroot method. So root, then install all your apps. After that, it's time to update to 12B. You're doing the same thing you did with 10B, except this time you are choosing "Normal Flash", not CSE flash, because you're upgrading. Once you've done that, you will be upgraded to 12B and will have lost root. Here is more from annoyingduck:
Now we're going to update to 23A using a method described here by justiz33.
Now we'll let annoyingduck take us home.
So there you have it, you're on Verizon official stock Lollipop (23A) for the G3! Now, there's a lot of bloat on there, which you can disable at will. This is a list of apps that are safe to disable, courtesy roirraW "edor" ehT and typed up by yours truly.
After disabling most of that (I think I left one or two I use on, like G+, Google Books, etc), my G3 is happily up & running without issue. Some have discovered issues with their installs.
The only issue I've had is gmail not syncing on WiFi. I've tried everything I (and the community) can think of and am unable to fix the no-notifications-on-WiFi bug. Unfortunately I'm not alone, but it doesn't affect everyone. So, be forewarned, this is a semi-widespread bug. Everything else I experienced about this build is absolutely wonderful, save for that one bug.
Once you're done, you should be greeted by some notifications similar to these...and a software info screen that looks like this. With the bloat disabled, Antutu treated me well with a score over 41K. That's without any tweaking at all obviously since there is no root yet.
There you have it folks...if you want to be an early stock Lollipop adopter on the Verizon G3, this is how to do it!
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**NOTE** - There are two stellar custom-stock ROMs here in the form of Jasmine v.5.0 and SkyDragon 3.0.0. There is no longer any need to use this method to upgrade to stock LP unless you just really need the software status to say "official". Download link & instructions at the following links:
SkyDragon G3 VS985 Edition Version 3.0.0
JasmineROM v5.0 Release [LP] [Stock] [Rooted] [Unmodified]
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Well, if you've been following along at XDA, Verizon's version of stock Lollipop for the G3 has leaked! It's annoying that there is no root yet, but that doesn't stop a flash addict like me, especially when there is an easy way to get all of your apps restored from Titanium Backup before losing root.
The good news is that you can downgrade back to 10B (the only root-able version) at any time and get back to rooted goodness and flashing rooted stock-KK or AOSP-Lollipop. I'm hopeful we'll get root eventually for stock Lollipop, but it's too soon for that.
Now I thought I'd type up a quick and easy how-to for upgrading to stock Lollipop on the G3 for anyone interested in trying it out! Please note NONE of this information is original to me. All credit goes to the respective posters at XDA.
First, you need to download several files. The first several have to do with KDZ'ing back to 10B, followed by 12B (you WILL LOSE DATA going back to 10B...back up everything!).
Things you will need:
Drivers from LG for the G3.
Two files from this download page - the 10B KDZ file (VS98510B_01.kdz) and the 23A update file (LG_VS985_12B-23A.dlpkgfile).
The 12B KDZ file. (Alternate mirror.)
The LG Flash Tool 2014 (originally from this thread).
Now that you have those, we can move on to the directions. To KDZ back to 10B (followed by 12B after a few interim steps), you need to follow the procedure outlined here by annoyingduck. I'm quoting everything so it's all in one post, but linking back so those who made it get all the credit.
When flashing the 10B KDZ, you must use the "CSE Flash" option, because you're downgrading and getting rid of everything on your phone. To repeat - you will lose ALL data, so copy your TiBu folder, your photos, files, etc. elsewhere first.
Ok, now that you're back to 10B, it's time to do some work there. You need to root your phone, install Titanium Backup and restore your backed up apps & their data. I prefer to use the IOroot method. So root, then install all your apps. After that, it's time to update to 12B. You're doing the same thing you did with 10B, except this time you are choosing "Normal Flash", not CSE flash, because you're upgrading. Once you've done that, you will be upgraded to 12B and will have lost root. Here is more from annoyingduck:
Now we're going to update to 23A using a method described here by justiz33.
Now we'll let annoyingduck take us home.
So there you have it, you're on Verizon official stock Lollipop (23A) for the G3! Now, there's a lot of bloat on there, which you can disable at will. This is a list of apps that are safe to disable, courtesy roirraW "edor" ehT and typed up by yours truly.
Can Be Uninstalled said:
Can Be Disabled said:
After disabling most of that (I think I left one or two I use on, like G+, Google Books, etc), my G3 is happily up & running without issue. Some have discovered issues with their installs.
The only issue I've had is gmail not syncing on WiFi. I've tried everything I (and the community) can think of and am unable to fix the no-notifications-on-WiFi bug. Unfortunately I'm not alone, but it doesn't affect everyone. So, be forewarned, this is a semi-widespread bug. Everything else I experienced about this build is absolutely wonderful, save for that one bug.
Once you're done, you should be greeted by some notifications similar to these...and a software info screen that looks like this. With the bloat disabled, Antutu treated me well with a score over 41K. That's without any tweaking at all obviously since there is no root yet.
There you have it folks...if you want to be an early stock Lollipop adopter on the Verizon G3, this is how to do it!
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LG is still LG, there will be root released sooner rather or later (tm).
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That's encouraging...and cryptic! Is that just based on history, or do you know something? I'm hoping against hope that there will be a root for 23A so I don't have to downgrade and can just get rooted. I'm loving the build so far though; everything is running great.
The only quirk was that gmail wouldn't notify me on WiFi. On suggestion from XDA, I used LG's built-in backup (which seems to be equivalent to TiBu in every way BTW), did a full factory reset and then reinstalled all my stuff with the LG utility. The phone was very close to the way it was (I had to re-disable the bloat) and notifications work.
With the equivalent of TiBu built in, that means the only thing I miss about root is being able to change DPI. Aside from that, I'm pretty much completely happy without it.
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Updated my little tutorial with a new mirror (android file host) for the 12B KDZ because it was on Mega (blech) and my experience with the no-notifications-on-WiFi bug (I couldn't fix it). I can, however, confirm flashing back to 10B, re-rooting, re-installing bumped TWRP and going back to my nandroid backup works just fine.
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Updated the tutorial with the following:
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Well, it's been a busy few weeks for me. I've beta tested several builds of SkyDragon and now it has come to a full release by HolyAngel at XDA, completely de-bloated and fully functioning stock Lollipop, rooted & bumped! It's really a thing to behold. I believe my flash addiction to play with AOSP and Lollipop has come to an end. With a stock-based Lollipop build, everything just works, including the very nice camera. Battery life couldn't be better either; I'm getting ~5 hours SOT with auto brightness set at 55%. It's wonderful.
Anyway, here's the link: SkyDragon Lollipop Version 3.0.1. If you use it, select his kernel; it's the best thing since sliced bread.
Also, there is now actual root for the G3, on any variant running any OS. I haven't used it yet (haven't needed to; I've been rooted since that came out), but by all accounts I've seen it works fine. Here's how to do it.
The G3 just got even better for me. Now I can just use the thing and not have to worry about flashing every other day. While that's fun and all, it's nice to not have to do all the time.
Anyway, here's the link: SkyDragon Lollipop Version 3.0.1. If you use it, select his kernel; it's the best thing since sliced bread.
Also, there is now actual root for the G3, on any variant running any OS. I haven't used it yet (haven't needed to; I've been rooted since that came out), but by all accounts I've seen it works fine. Here's how to do it.
The G3 just got even better for me. Now I can just use the thing and not have to worry about flashing every other day. While that's fun and all, it's nice to not have to do all the time.
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