Clean Install, BSOD's after adding more RAM, Memtest86 shows no errors?

I just ran a full memtest86 and it passed with 0 errors, 48/48 tests, took 6 hours and 15 minutes.

I only had the new RAM modules installed for this test and I also put them in mobo ram slots 2, 4 instead of 1 and 3 because I know 1 and 3 are fine and I also know my old RAM modules are stable even with my OC profile.

The problem I continue to experience even after a clean install with all drivers, updates is that with all 4 RAM modules installed, I BSOD. This has happened during mostly gaming, watching videos etc and none of the bsods have come back with crashes due to ATI/AMD drivers.

I am not currently using OC profiles..but this is the one I would like to use again...

CPU
Turbo Mode Auto
CPU Vcore 1.2v
CPU VRIN LLC Loadline Calibration Extreme
CPU VRIN Ex Override 1.7v
CPU VRING 1.15v
C6/C7 Disabled
C1E Disabled
EIST Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor Auto
C3 Enabled

Memory
DRAM Voltage 1.5v
Timings 8,8,8,24
System Memory x 16



My RAM is identical, all 4 modules are exactly the same.

G.SKILL Ripjawsx 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-24, 1.5v

I'm guessing that there are some settings in the motherboard that I have to do in order for the system to be stable with all 4 modules installed?

Thanks in advance

P.S. System is fully stable with OC profile with only 2 RAM modules installed



Here are some BSOD results prior to my clean install but the ones I've had since my clean install have been those 700mb memory dump types...



SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION 0x0000003b 00000000`c0000005 fffff880`1075b61b fffff880`0a2c3b00 00000000`00000000 Null.SYS Null.SYS+c59761b

SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED 0x0000007e ffffffff`c0000005 fffff800`03498e12 fffff880`030d9818 fffff880`030d9070 ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+74ec0

0x00000124 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0ddb08f8 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+4af18c


SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION 0x0000003b 00000000`c0000005 fffff880`10783ec0 fffff880`06bddbd0 00000000`00000000 dxgmms1.sys dxgmms1.sys+1ec0

0x00000124 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0f9fb8f8 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ntoskrnl.exe

SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION 0x0000003b 00000000`c0000005 fffff800`03531598 fffff880`099c8f00 00000000`00000000 tunnel.sys tunnel.sys+51c8f00

MEMORY_MANAGEMENT 0x0000001a 00000000`00041790 fffffa80`0a039500 00000000`0000ffff 00000000`00000000 ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+74ec0 x64 ntoskrnl.exe+74ec0

SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED 0x0000007e ffffffff`c0000005 fffff880`0f423eb0 fffff880`03f36548 fffff880`03f35da0 dxgmms1.sys dxgmms1.sys+23eb0

CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION 0x000000f4 00000000`00000003 fffffa80`0c714b30 fffffa80`0c714e10 fffff800`03781270 intelppm.sys intelppm.sys+1814f50

Crash Address is always a x64ntoskrnl.exe+xxxxx

Give the RAM a little extra voltage and see if you're still getting crashes

ATMINSIDE said:

Give the RAM a little extra voltage and see if you're still getting crashes

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What's a little more voltage?

Is this ok since my RAM is 1.5v and the mobo also likes that?

Are there any cpu/mobo voltages I should be looking at?

I understand little in terms of OC'ing, just follow guides but what I read is that the extra ram adds more stress to OC or something like that.

Thanks.

Give it 1.6V and see if it stabilizes out. DDR3 is safe WELL over that.

Hold off changing any other settings for now, you want to test one thing at a time, that way you know what fixed the problem.

ATMINSIDE said:

Give it 1.6V and see if it stabilizes out. DDR3 is safe WELL over that.

Hold off changing any other settings for now, you want to test one thing at a time, that way you know what fixed the problem.

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I would almost prefer loosening the timings before adding more voltage, what do you think?

Currently I'm running Prime95 with the new RAM modules only...with the OC settings...everything is ok so far.

Should I post my current OC values?

Currently it's at 4.5ghz @ 1.2v but I've changed other voltage values also...

I've had this stable oc for the better part of a year now.

So I haven't been able to figure anything out...

I did Prime95 tests as follows...

1) With new sticks of RAM only, with OC settings, approx ran for an hour
2) With all 4 sticks of RAM, with OC settings, approx ran for an hour

Again, I understand I could leave it running for hours but I'm trying to make this less cumbersome at the start.

I also know that simply reseating the RAM could have done the trick...

Now I will run the OC again with all 4 sticks of RAM but I will keep my 1.5v values to see if I crash...

Just started playing sleeping dogs and within 20 minutes, hard freeze.

no bug check string but bug check code was 0124 which I know is hardware related from what I've read.

I have now increased the RAM voltage to your suggested 1.6v and will try again.

0x124's are not always hardware, some are caused by drivers/utility drivers that interfere at close to hardware level. There are odd cases where AV or AV remnants also trigger it. See here for a brief breakdown of 21 'solved' cases - some are still hanging on the real reason though.

Similar with your earlier 3 BSOD types, all of them have been known to be triggered by bad drivers.

124 is either vCore or Cache voltage.

ATMINSIDE said:

124 is either vCore or Cache voltage.

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Put the RAM at 1.6v, crashed exiting Sleeping Dogs game....System_Thread_Exception_Not_Handled, 0x07e, c05, dxgmms1.sys

I've now removed my OC completely and playing again...

I know what vCore is but what is Cache voltage?....sorry if this is a dumb question.

Sorry, I don't know what "There are odd cases where AV or AV remnants also trigger it." means...

Do you guys think it could be my new RAM? I'm kinda baffled now...I know I didn't run the various RAM tests for very long but to my knowledge the times I ran them for should be sufficient in most cases....

We'll see how things go with no OC...

I'm also suspecting it could be a corrupt OS? What do you think? It has been a while since I've done a clean install...a while to my standards at least.

There should be a setting in your BIOS for the cache voltage.

AV means antivirus.

ATMINSIDE said:

There should be a setting in your BIOS for the cache voltage.

AV means antivirus.

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I don't use an AV, I run all my programs manually, meaning, nothing runs in the background.

I use CCleaner, HOSTS, Windows Firewall, SuperAntiSpyware, MalwareBytes and nothing runs in the background.

Took the OC off and another 0124 error while playing sleeping dogs.

Should I do a clean install at this point?

Probably wouldn't be a bad idea

ATMINSIDE said:

Probably wouldn't be a bad idea

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I haven't done the clean install yet. I'd hate to do one and still get crashes so I'm doing more testing...

It's possible that the game alone, Sleeping Dogs, is causing the crashes...I've been reading about this on the net...something to do with their HD texture pack...

I just hope it's not my hardware, that's always more challenging to pin point.

All have happened during YouTube watching, gaming (sleeping dogs), xbmc (watching tv shows)

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Suggestive of general or graphics/networking-related interference rather than any specific game.

Motherboard/GPU maker's utility software, tweaking software, virtual software/drives, AV/firewall (whether currently installed or historically) would be my initial suspects when looking for sources of interference.

Was this OS carried over from a different set of hardware?

Another crash with playing sleeping dogs. I played league of legends last night for 3-4 hours and watched tv shows using xbmc, no crashes,

I continue to have issues with sleeping dogs.

The OS is not really carried over from different hardware other than maybe a GPU and the RAM I just installed. The crashes are very recent though...GPU was installed last year.

I just ran AIDA64 stability test on all components for an hour and no crash...with the OC settings...which are here btw...

CPU
Turbo Mode Auto
CPU Vcore 1.2v
CPU VRIN LLC Loadline Calibration Extreme
CPU VRIN Ex Override 1.7v
CPU VRING 1.15v
C6/C7 Disabled
C1E Disabled
EIST Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor Auto
C3 Enabled

Memory
DRAM Voltage 1.5v
Timings 8,8,8,24
System Memory x 16

I think I will try to reinstall Sleeping Dogs (Steam), though many people are having bsod's with it...the fixes posted online have not worked for me...

If the above doesn't work, I'll try a clean install finally.

I do clean installs about once a year if all is functioning well...

All my drivers are up to date and I only use motherboard qualified drivers for anything motherboard related. I believe this is the best method but again, crashes are recent...didn't have any issues for a while now.

Alright more hard freezes and this time not with sleeping dogs...euro truck sim 2...

I ripped out the new RAM modules again and we'll see what happens in the next day or so.

It's either corrupt software, bad new RAM or my OC needs changing with the additional RAM.

The stress tests I've used have not shown errors and they were run with all of the RAM as well as the OC settings so not sure...

Doing clean install now and I've already crashed with my new installation.

System_Service_Exception 0x03b, null.SYS driver failed...

Could someone please tell me wtf is going on?

I pass stress tests with all RAM modules with my OC settings but I crash in games and after a new installation?

Is it the RAM or am I missing something here?

I also checked motherboard RAM slots by using a stick I know works and checking each RAM slot individually.