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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman99 View Post
    I was correct that Ryzen uses two dies.
    Ryzen desktop variant is quite clearly a single die. IT was also very explicitly stated in the video you replied to. Hence why R5 series CPUs will have 2 CCX. What you are calling a die is meerly a single CPU core module. There is only a single front end for the combine 2 CCX units, and as such must be considered a single die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolk View Post
    Theory for those that want to test memory latency (NOT CACHE):

    If you have a 1700 or up to 1800x, please enable/disable a set of 4Cores (SMT OFF) and test memory latency. Repeat test for other set of 4 cores.

    The set of 4 cores should be Cores 0 through 3, and Cores 4 through 7. I want to verify something that I've noticed in the Ryzen die shot.

    Quoted Dolk's post/dieshot so you can see it again wingman.
    Quote Originally Posted by wingman99 View Post
    I was correct that Ryzen uses two dies.
    So dies are cut from a round silicon wafer. Those cuts are always rectangular. Where can you make a rectangle, on the die shot above, without cutting something that is a structure. If you notice along the edge of the die itself, there are structures, make sure you don't clip one of those off. It is one single piece of continuous silicon....

    Therefore, it is a SINGLE DIE not a dual die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman99 View Post
    I was correct that Ryzen uses two dies.
    ehh kinda not really. It is a pair of CCX modules on one die.
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    Ryzen 7 1700 Delided , One Die

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    Looks like two dies here also.

    Hardware unboxed said all 8 cores are not located within the same die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman99 View Post
    Looks like two dies here also.

    Hardware unboxed said all 8 cores are not located within the same die.

    There are two solder stickers...I am saying there is one die. Want to know how I know that?

    Because this is what an MCM looks like.



    That is a Q6600 for reference. Would you mind pointing out where the die splits in Ryzen?



    That is a die shot for reference. The Q6600 is physically two completely separate dies tied together using the FSB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman99 View Post
    Looks like two dies here also.

    Hardware unboxed said all 8 cores are not located within the same die.

    So this is only 4 cores then?
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    Funny, on this one continuous die (above, single, not plural) shot, there are two of these:

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    I guess I am wrong. You are right wingman, and there must be two of the first pictures on a Ryzen 8 core CPU. That must mean each CCX only contains 2 cores, and AMD has lied about how many CPU cores their are in a CCX. Furthermore, the Ryzen 7 series MUST have 4 CCXs to have 8 cores! You sir, have exposed AMD's lies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbritt268 View Post
    So far with 64 gigs of ram i have gotten to 4.1 at 1.4125 with 2666 speed not to bad for the start. temps hit 70 max

    4.2 would not boot into windows even at 1.5 so i just stopped at that point.

    It almost makes XFR the way to go because it auto clocks cores to 4.1 anyways on my system, and then keeps temps down
    James, I would agree that it is fairly pointless to run the 1800X as overclocked, mostly cause it hurts the 1800X's single threaded/dual threaded performance if you overclock to less than the XFR frequency. That being said, XFR only hits 4.1ghz for up to 2 cores, not the whole CPU. So in theory, you can increase performance in your 3+ core utilization applications by overclocking it to 4.0ghz, with a minor loss in lightly threaded applications.

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    Looks like Hardware unboxed does not know what there talking about.
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