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    Quote Originally Posted by Woomack View Post
    Really I wasn't expecting more cores so soon. AMD said that they are not planning more than 8 cores and now we see some info about new chipset and sockets. Really I'm not happy seeing that when I just paid for 8 core+X370 board.
    I'd expect it to cost far more than R7 if it happens, as it would finally take on Intel HEDT range head on.

    Some of the numbers makes sense based on what we know about the architecture, with 12 cores quad channel being delivered by 4 CCX each with 3 cores active. Dunno if the 8x 8MB L3 cache is a typo, mis-detection or real though, as that would run double current.
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    https://www.aida64.com/news/pr/aida6...-press-release

    Aida64 has now been updated to fully support Ryzen. Just in time for me, as my licence update expires in 2 days time and I wasn't intending on renewing it.
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    Hope to see some proper testing on that with our AMD chips since we couldn't in our initial reviews.. (thanks AMD for not getting them samples in a timely manner.)

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    I am particularly interested in this "..., offering 8T/16C of... " CPU the author mentions
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    Quote Originally Posted by notarat View Post
    I am particularly interested in this "..., offering 8T/16C of... " CPU the author mentions
    Same here. Release a higher clocked 8/16 with quad channel and I'll look into it.

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    Same here. Release a higher clocked 8/16 with quad channel and I'll look into it.
    I was thinking more about the typo regarding a 16 core, but only 8 thread cpu...but I do agree that a higher clocked CPU with Quad channel would be tasty
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    Naples doesn't support quad channel, so there will be none anytime soon. But compared to Intel's Skylake server class, the Napels has a higher bandwidth and RAM storage capacity on paper.
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    To my understanding Naples offers 32 cores, which is 8 CCX. Zen is currently understood to support one memory channel per CCX. A hypothetical 12 or 16 core CPU would likely have 4 CCX thus quad channel support. If AM4 was never built with this support, then they'll have to do the Intel thing and base it on a server socket that can.
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    That is not the case. I got to see some docs. I'll tell you guys now, that Quad-Channel does not exist. Its all dual channel dims just like Intel Skylynx. It just a higher capcity for additional DIMMs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolk View Post
    That is not the case. I got to see some docs. I'll tell you guys now, that Quad-Channel does not exist. Its all dual channel dims just like Intel Skylynx. It just a higher capcity for additional DIMMs
    Correct it works the exact same way as BD/PD based stuff did. It claims quad channel, but is just dual dual channel controllers.
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    I will be surprised if AMD marketing claims Quad Channel. Its pretty explicit even in their early docs.
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    Maybe it is the wording but I don't understand the claim here.

    Skylake (and 115x in general) is dual channel, each channel can take 2 modules, for 4 modules but still 2 channels. Current Ryzen on AM4 looks like it does same, but from what I've seen, each CCX has one memory channel supporting two modules. R7, 2 CCX, 2 channels. Naples, 32 cores = 8 CCX = 8 channels.

    A hypothetical 12 or 16 core Zen CPU will have 4 CCX, thus it could have 4 of single channel memory controllers. If it goes to AM4 and does not support that, they would have to limit it, or go to some new socket. I think AMD have said they were going to standardise on AM4 for consumer stuff, but I don't think that necessarily shuts the door on another socket if they, for example, market towards workstation or low end server usage without necessarily going to 2 sockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolk View Post
    I will be surprised if AMD marketing claims Quad Channel. Its pretty explicit even in their early docs.
    AMD marketing claimed that the 6100/6200/6300 series were all quad channel and they are not.

    http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/se...eron/6000/6300

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