FEATURED AMD ZEN Discussion (Previous Rumor Thread)

Janus67 · Sep 28, 2016

Johan45 said:
That it would. Might even make Janus's stock worth something. Ha ha
I'm sure that Intel can be a real PITA to work with

Lol indeed. I could have sold when it most recently topped out at around 7.25, making for a whopping .75 loss overall per share, but decided to ride it out and see what happens. It's in my retirement account anyway, who knows what will happen in the next 20 some years.

Johan45 · Sep 29, 2016

With luck it'll double Janus.

Blaylock · Sep 29, 2016

Johan45 said:
With luck it'll double Janus.

The loss or the value? LOL

EarthDog · Sep 29, 2016

Alaric said:
I wonder if that says something about pricing? Apple doesn't exactly break the bank on high end parts in their stuff. If AMD can undercut Intel's pricing by enough to get Apple to switch does that mean the rest of us can look forward to the same?

Apple does break the bank though. Their macbook pro's and airbooks, last I recall were a ripoff compared to non apple similarly spec'd, no?

ATMINSIDE · Sep 29, 2016

EarthDog said:
Apple does break the bank though. Their macbook pro's and airbooks, last I recall were a ripoff compared to non apple similarly spec'd, no?

They are, but running AMD could help them actually be competitively priced for once.

Johan45 · Sep 29, 2016

EarthDog said:
Apple does break the bank though. Their macbook pro's and airbooks, last I recall were a ripoff compared to non apple similarly spec'd, no?

But it's an Apple, that covers everything they're the best.( at increasing profit margins) Ha ha

ATMINSIDE said:
They are, but running AMD could help them actually be competitively priced for once.

Do you really think the price will go down?

ATMINSIDE · Sep 29, 2016

If their cost goes down enough I wouldn't be surprised if the prices went down (or at least didn't increase gen to gen as they typically do).

Robert17 · Sep 29, 2016

Or sprinkle a bit of that Apple Pixie Dust on the finished product and make their shareholders happier.

Alaric · Sep 29, 2016

EarthDog said:
Apple does break the bank though. Their macbook pro's and airbooks, last I recall were a ripoff compared to non apple similarly spec'd, no?

Apple's pricing is nuts. I was referring to the quality of the hardware they use. There is nothing in an Apple product to justify the cost.

Dolk · Sep 29, 2016

Getting back to topic, the lack of NB is because the NB and SB are now merged. The SB traditionally handled the SATA/USB and legacy I/O. Well now that feature size has decreased, we can that chip into one chip with a bunch of PCIe. Wonder why only some of the new chipsets only have 2 lanes of full x16 rather than 3 or more? Its a bit harder to start packing all that in with more and more PCIe lanes.

wingman99 · Sep 29, 2016

It looks like a southbridge heatsink in the picture of Post 633, why did they not merge the northbridge on the CPU?

Johan45 · Sep 30, 2016

They did, that chip you see will be some additional SATA/USB/PCIe and low level board control( overclocking), adding to what is already contained in the chip. The new ZEN is closer to an SOC than a CPU really.

knoober · Sep 30, 2016

You would think if they added into the Southbridge there would be a need for a better sink. I guess they have really made some lower optimizations. I would keep an eye out for that when OCing though, as those additional components may act wonky under stress and voltage. Right?

Johan45 · Sep 30, 2016

If anything the SB does less, it's more like an add-on chip to extend I/O capabilities.

M@rk · Sep 30, 2016

knoober said:
You would think if they added into the Southbridge there would be a need for a better sink. I guess they have really made some lower optimizations. I would keep an eye out for that when OCing though, as those additional components may act wonky under stress and voltage. Right?

The SoC itself might be larger than a "standard" sized CPU, Right?

Blaylock · Sep 30, 2016

What is a standard size CPU?

Johan45 · Sep 30, 2016

I imagine that square mm it's about the same size but uses a much smaller node so you can get more in the same space

EDIT: Found some pics of the DIE/chipset layout

M@rk · Sep 30, 2016

Blaylock said:
What is a standard size CPU?

I meant the mainstream size of intel or amd cpus. About what 4cm square?

ATMINSIDE · Sep 30, 2016

M@rk said:
I meant the mainstream size of intel or amd cpus. About what 4cm square?

Are you referring to the CPU or the die size?

Johan45 · Sep 30, 2016

M@rk said:
I meant the mainstream size of intel or amd cpus. About what 4cm square?

ATM has a point if you look here you'll see the actual 6700K die is a fraction of the size of the CPU

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