I don't remember when AMD was clearly winning in price/performance ratio. All current and last gen of CPUs are just well planned marketing and you only hear that AMD is better choice for users with lower budget while it's not really true when you look at the whole platform cost.
Think that FX/APU need better cooling than Intel ( what is additional cost ) and need higher clock than Intel to be as fast. At the same time for overclocking you need good board while Intel can OC on anything with 4 CPU power phases ( so generally everything ).
AMD also uses more power so in theory you need stronger PSU ( even if wattage is ok then PSU may heat up more and generate more noise ). All AMD PC also runs louder if you won't pay premium for a good cooler even if you are not overclocking. All who were trying to run FX8000 series on stock cooler in 24/7 pc know what I mean.
Sockets are also just an argument when AMD fans want to complain at "next" Intel socket changes. AMD had AM2 which wasn't fully compatible in both ways with AM2+ the same as AM2+ wasn't with AM3 and AM3 wasn't with AM3+. There are little changes like max CPU power compatibility ( between 85 and 145W ), memory controller support, available microcode etc. In real AMD is the same as Intel, 2 CPU generations per socket and that's all.
DDR4 won't change anything if AMD won't focus on good memory controller. At least FX series CPUs have pathetic memory performance comparing to Intel and are highly limited by memory controller.
I assume that 16 core Zens won't be available for desktops the same as quad channel memory. At least I have a feeling that AMD will try to compete with mid range Intel series rather than enthusiast line which will get Skylake-E at the end of this year/beginning of 2016. For some reason there are already BIOS updates for next gen CPUs for X99 boards but marked as 5th gen and there are no new CPUs on the list. Weird is that for 1150 5th gen = broadwell while 2011-3 has no broadwell in official plans.
Think that FX/APU need better cooling than Intel ( what is additional cost ) and need higher clock than Intel to be as fast. At the same time for overclocking you need good board while Intel can OC on anything with 4 CPU power phases ( so generally everything ).
AMD also uses more power so in theory you need stronger PSU ( even if wattage is ok then PSU may heat up more and generate more noise ). All AMD PC also runs louder if you won't pay premium for a good cooler even if you are not overclocking. All who were trying to run FX8000 series on stock cooler in 24/7 pc know what I mean.
Sockets are also just an argument when AMD fans want to complain at "next" Intel socket changes. AMD had AM2 which wasn't fully compatible in both ways with AM2+ the same as AM2+ wasn't with AM3 and AM3 wasn't with AM3+. There are little changes like max CPU power compatibility ( between 85 and 145W ), memory controller support, available microcode etc. In real AMD is the same as Intel, 2 CPU generations per socket and that's all.
DDR4 won't change anything if AMD won't focus on good memory controller. At least FX series CPUs have pathetic memory performance comparing to Intel and are highly limited by memory controller.
I assume that 16 core Zens won't be available for desktops the same as quad channel memory. At least I have a feeling that AMD will try to compete with mid range Intel series rather than enthusiast line which will get Skylake-E at the end of this year/beginning of 2016. For some reason there are already BIOS updates for next gen CPUs for X99 boards but marked as 5th gen and there are no new CPUs on the list. Weird is that for 1150 5th gen = broadwell while 2011-3 has no broadwell in official plans.