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Woomack · Jan 7, 2017

Nearly all boards which I saw so far look like for budget gaming builds or are generally from cheaper series. I hope there will be more boards designed for overclocking as now most look like toys. Simply Z270 motherboards have better design, even these cheaper.
Hard to say what these CPUs will really need for overclocking so they won't be limited by motherboards.

ATMINSIDE · Jan 7, 2017

Woomack said:
Nearly all boards which I saw so far look like for budget gaming builds or are generally from cheaper series. I hope there will be more boards designed for overclocking as now most look like toys. Simply Z270 motherboards have better design, even these cheaper.
Hard to say what these CPUs will really need for overclocking so they won't be limited by motherboards.

I've seen a couple of higher boards. Namely ASRock with an 18-phase VRM X370 board that's fully loaded with features.

wingman99 · Jan 7, 2017

wingman99 said:
AMD statement is Ryzen trajectory is not till the end of the quarter.

mackerel said:
Was that from the video at infoworld? I had to listen to that again, as I heard "not the end of the quarter" earlier. On relistening, I fear you're right and it is "not till"

That is where I heard it from your link on infowold, that is such a bad deal.

ATMINSIDE · Jan 7, 2017

wingman99 said:
That is where I heard it from your link on infowold, that is such a bad deal.

What is a bad deal, that they're releasing earlier than the end of the quarter?

mackerel · Jan 7, 2017

I think we're out of step here with replies. I'll take ATMINSIDE's word over possibly mis-hearing the other video.

wingman99 · Jan 7, 2017

ATMINSIDE said:
What is a bad deal, that they're releasing earlier than the end of the quarter?

Infowold did not say that.

ATMINSIDE · Jan 7, 2017

wingman99 said:
Infowold did not say that.

That's fantastic that Infoworld, in the past, did not agree with the information I was given in person with AMD this morning.

Dolk · Jan 7, 2017

I want AMD to release a paper on this information.

ShrimpBrime · Jan 7, 2017

Auto raise max clocks by detecting your premium cooling. Interesting, but seems to take away the fun from the word over-clocking.

Fun sponge software :rofl:

Mr.Scott · Jan 7, 2017

ShrimpBrime said:
Auto raise max clocks by detecting your premium cooling. Interesting, but seems to take away the fun from the word over-clocking.

Fun sponge software

I'm sure you'll have the option to turn it off in the bios. It's really no different than anybody else's auto overclock software.

Vishera · Jan 7, 2017

Can't wait to get those official benchmarks from people that aren't on AMD's payroll. But why do I get the feeling we're going to be disappointed?

ATMINSIDE · Jan 7, 2017

ShrimpBrime said:
Auto raise max clocks by detecting your premium cooling. Interesting, but seems to take away the fun from the word over-clocking.

Fun sponge software

From what I gathered today, it isn't software. Looks to come from the hardware itself as a BIOS level function. They also mentioned frequency for turbo will auto adjust at 25MHz increments instead of 100MHz increments.

Vishera said:
Can't wait to get those official benchmarks from people that aren't on AMD's payroll. But why do I get the feeling we're going to be disappointed?

I'm not on payroll at AMD. No official benchmarks, but I can tell you without hesitation I can't feel a difference side by side with a 6900K when using an 8-core 3.4GHz Ryzen CPU.

Alaric · Jan 7, 2017

But why do I get the feeling we're going to be disappointed?

Two reasons. AMD's somewhat iffy track record of enthusiasm over performance in pre release, and your parents already had the Santa talk with you. If your parents did NOT have the Santa talk with you, ignore that part. Means nothing. LOL

EarthDog · Jan 7, 2017

I don't think many will be dissapointed.

If I wasn't at a sponsored party getting shmammered.... more (but limited) details would he shared.

But we played on a Ryzen cpu and intel cpu with the same gpu clocked the same on the cpu and there was virtually no difference in fps. Obviously we couldn't empirically test, but... yeah.

ShrimpBrime · Jan 7, 2017

ATMINSIDE said:
From what I gathered today, it isn't software. Looks to come from the hardware itself as a BIOS level function. They also mentioned frequency for turbo will auto adjust at 25MHz increments instead of 100MHz increments.

I'm not on payroll at AMD. No official benchmarks, but I can tell you without hesitation I can't feel a difference side by side with a 6900K when using an 8-core 3.4GHz Ryzen CPU.

Amazing. That's all any one needs to read right here. Thanks for sharing.

wingman99 · Jan 8, 2017

EarthDog said:
I don't think many will be dissapointed.

If I wasn't at a sponsored party getting shmammered.... more (but limited) details would he shared.

But we played on a Ryzen cpu and intel cpu with the same gpu clocked the same on the cpu and there was virtually no difference in fps. Obviously we couldn't empirically test, but... yeah.

What Video card were they using?

ATMINSIDE · Jan 8, 2017

wingman99 said:
What Video card were they using?

Titan X Pascal, no bottlenecking was apparent in the 4K Ultra games we saw.

M@rk · Jan 8, 2017

Hohoho!

mackerel · Jan 8, 2017

Was watching that before this thread... interesting to see a dev card. So, how many are trying to work out the cabling under the creases on that tape?

M@rk · Jan 8, 2017

mackerel said:
Was watching that before this thread... interesting to see a dev card. So, how many are trying to work out the cabling under the creases on that tape?

I think this card will be the RX490x

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