FEATURED AMD ZEN Discussion (Previous Rumor Thread)

wingman99 · Feb 27, 2017

petteyg359 said:
As of yet there's no 40-lane R7, so there's not much point in a boatload of expansion slots. I'm hoping they make one soonish so I can replace my 5930k without losing I/O capacity.

I have not seen any benchmarks where 40 PCI-E lane benefits compared 28 PCI-E lane.

Tír na nÓg · Feb 27, 2017

I would not believe Intel was that stupid...
http://wccftech.com/intel-playing-dirty-undercut-amd-ryzen/

Saul Goodman · Feb 27, 2017

petteyg359 said:
As of yet there's no 40-lane R7, so there's not much point in a boatload of expansion slots. I'm hoping they make one soonish so I can replace my 5930k without losing I/O capacity.

Your system listed could be plugged into a $100 entry level board? Why all the expansion needed?

Tír na nÓg said:
I would not believe Intel was that stupid...
http://wccftech.com/intel-playing-dirty-undercut-amd-ryzen/

Sounded juicy....but just more clickbait from the usual website.

EarthDog · Feb 27, 2017

They asked us if 'we were covering the release' and 'wanted a statement from Intel'. I said yes, and haven't heard back...

Alaric said:
Taxes in Phoenix are at 9%. Some towns out here have a total 13% sales tax. Counties and municipalities are allowed to just pile on the state tax. Along with city income taxes and state income taxes. Sucks most of any savings right out of having a Fry's in town.

Yes, alaric, there are exceptions as I alluded to. One is Arizona... have a cookie. For the most part, MC pricing is cheaper as was stated.

DaveB · Feb 27, 2017

Returns are easy at Microcenter also - no questions asked, no restocking fees, no cost to ship it back.

Veraxis · Feb 27, 2017

Saul Goodman said:
Sounded juicy....but just more clickbait from the usual website.

Apparantly this was also mentioned on page 107 in post 2131 and sourced on post 2133 if that adds anything, but I agree that it seems like there is a lot of speculation going on and possibly making more of it than it is. It seems like there is evidence to suggest that Intel's PR have sent out *some* kind of emails in response to the upcoming release, but whether they contain anything questionable or actionable seems unlikely to me.

Soulcatcher668 · Feb 27, 2017

Veraxis said:
Apparantly this was also mentioned on page 107 in post 2131 and sourced on post 2133 if that adds anything, but I agree that it seems like there is a lot of speculation going on and possibly making more of it than it is. It seems like there is evidence to suggest that Intel's PR have sent out *some* kind of emails in response to the upcoming release, but whether they contain anything questionable or actionable seems probably unlikely to me.

I would think that any communication that Intel has sent out was vetted by the legal department quite thoroughly.

Companies do not like losing market share. I would expect Intel to be doing something proactive with regards to protecting their interests.

mackerel · Feb 27, 2017

While waiting for more comprehensive benchmarks, it is certain Ryzen will be strong in certain areas, but not all of them. Intel marketing will be looking to make sure people don't forget the differences, so people don't get the incorrect impression that Ryzen is going to be better at everything.

Alaric · Feb 27, 2017

have a cookie

I don't eat cookies.

I would not believe Intel was that stupid...
http://wccftech.com/intel-playing-di...cut-amd-ryzen/

Google "Intel compiler lawsuit". They are that criminal, I don't know about stupid.

Saul Goodman · Feb 27, 2017

I don't think it's criminal to promote your products before a rival company launches their own.

Alaric · Feb 27, 2017

I was referring to their previous actions. I didn't see anything this time at all. Sending a couple emails out doesn't really sound all that nefarious. The compiler deal was over 10 years ago, but it was some dirty stuff. It amounted to flat out lying to the public by rigging the game.Bad stuff.

BuRgLaR · Feb 27, 2017

Saul Goodman said:
I don't think it's criminal to promote your products before a rival company launches their own.

Neither do I

However paying companies to exclude competitors hardware should be

Bluefalcon13 · Feb 27, 2017

BuRgLaR said:
Neither do I

However paying companies to exclude competitors hardware should be

But they aren't paying them... They are offering a "conditional promotional discount".......

Mmm legal speak!

BuRgLaR · Feb 27, 2017

Bluefalcon13 said:
But they aren't paying them... They are offering a "conditional promotional discount".......

Mmm legal speak!

Ha! I love it

You work for Intel by chance?

Alaric · Feb 27, 2017

Intel's compilers were written to specifically cripple AMD processors performance, without telling the people they sold them to. Their code lied about the competition's performance. It was really foul. Intel has a long history of playing dirty. That doesn't mean their stuff is inferior, just that they're dishonest. LOL

This is the kind of stuff that happens when we run out of Ryzen rumors. Speaking of which, shouldn't we be seeing some third party benchmarks tomorrow?

Blaylock · Feb 27, 2017

I'm praying, mostly so we can start talking about Ryzen in the Ryzen thread.

Bluefalcon13 · Feb 27, 2017

BuRgLaR said:
Ha! I love it

You work for Intel by chance?

I wish, but alas, I am merely a lowly electrical engineering intern at a local company that specializes in RF communications!

Been around for a few years.... My perception of corporations is very dark indeed. Even think the same would happen if AMD was in Intel's position [emoji14]

Kenrou · Feb 27, 2017

Blaylock said:
I'm praying, mostly so we can start talking about Ryzen in the Ryzen thread.

From your lips to AMD's ears...

Alaric · Feb 27, 2017

Blaylock said:
I'm praying, mostly so we can start talking about Ryzen in the Ryzen thread.

shouldn't we be seeing some third party benchmarks tomorrow?

Don't the NDAs lift tomorrow? Should be some good reading coming up.

Bluefalcon13 · Feb 27, 2017

Blaylock said:
I'm praying, mostly so we can start talking about Ryzen in the Ryzen thread.

Buuuuut Intel TURBO BOOOOOOOOOST!

Sorry.... Had to. It really bugged me [emoji14]

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