FEATURED AMD ZEN Discussion (Previous Rumor Thread)

cdawall · Feb 18, 2017

Tír na nÓg said:
Well, we're not talking about a Phenom in this thread, but about a $300 CPU that crushes its Intel $600 counterpart ... (Sorry Captain Scotty ).

All leaked benchmarks show the same thing: get more performance with half or third of your INtel muney!

And I am happy, because I gave the blue team money enough the past 5 years!!!

My Intel cost the same as the amd 6 cores...new in the box from Intel. If they can't keep up with broadwell-e what's the plan when skylake-e hits the market? Cut costs even more and claim "it's better for the money" companies can't exist playing the value game. AMD should know that they have been trying it for almost 10 years now.

wingman99 · Feb 18, 2017

cdawall said:
My Intel cost the same as the amd 6 cores...new in the box from Intel. If they can't keep up with broadwell-e what's the plan when skylake-e hits the market? Cut costs even more and claim "it's better for the money" companies can't exist playing the value game. AMD should know that they have been trying it for almost 10 years now.

Yes AMD stock has been very low the last 5 years. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=amd+stock+price

cdawall · Feb 18, 2017

wingman99 said:
Yes AMD stock has been very low the last 5 years. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=amd+stock+price

AMD stock has been a joke for years...

and it appears zen has made no dent in intel stock

ShrimpBrime · Feb 18, 2017

Mr.Scott said:
I don't believe any of the leaks.
Cautiously optimistic I'm being.
I have no doubt that AMD has a winner here, but being an Intel killer has yet to be proven to anybody.

Just come forth with the goods Scotty. We know your secrets.

Let's be optimistic at 10% lower IPC than Intel per core. The SMT Multitasking makes up for it.

Gather it scales decently with Overclocking, while DDR4 at home numbers to be seen.

Motherboard Makes Asus Gigabyte and AsRock should have decent boards as they always do.

Games Like Haswell at a give or take 5%, I for one would be pretty happy with the adventure of a new AMD Ryzen processor.... even if it's just 4/8

doc6886 · Feb 19, 2017

Isn't Intel going to release their 10nm Canonlake soon? And won't that outperform the Ryzen?

Kenrou · Feb 19, 2017

Was this posted here already ?

CPUMark testing on 1700x : http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-389-8-core-cpu-benchmarks-leaked/

CPUMark testing on 1800x : http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-8-core-benchmarks/

DaveB · Feb 19, 2017

doc6886 said:
Isn't Intel going to release their 10nm Canonlake soon? And won't that outperform the Ryzen?

Due to yield issues with the process shrink to 10nm, Cannon Lake has been delayed until the second half of 2017 with "volume in the first half of [2018]". So it looks like an AMD-like partial release this year.

Dermen · Feb 19, 2017

It will be interesting to see what happens with XFR. Lots of people don't OC but buy giant coolers or AIOs.

Mr.Scott · Feb 19, 2017

doc6886 said:
And won't that outperform the Ryzen?

Nobody knows. Crystal ball not working.

wingman99 · Feb 19, 2017

doc6886 said:
And won't that outperform the Ryzen?

Kaby lake already outperforms Ryzen.

Mr.Scott · Feb 19, 2017

wingman99 said:
Kaby lake already outperforms Ryzen.

Link to factual benchmarks please.

Bluefalcon13 · Feb 19, 2017

Mr.Scott said:
Link to factual benchmarks please.

I'm starting to get the feeling you know more than you say [emoji14]

wingman99 · Feb 19, 2017

Mr.Scott said:
Link to factual benchmarks please.

Ryzen performance is the same as Haswell and kaby lake is more performance than Haswell. We will have to see if I'm correct.

I called it first.

Mr.Scott · Feb 19, 2017

So....no facts then. Just more BS.

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Bluefalcon13 said:
I'm starting to get the feeling you know more than you say

I don't know what you're talking about.

Bluefalcon13 · Feb 19, 2017

Mr.Scott said:
So....no facts then. Just more BS.

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I don't know what you're talking about.

You've already admitted to stumbling into the right place at the right time [emoji14]

Kenrou · Feb 19, 2017

Well AMD always advertised 40% increased IPC from Bulldozer, that would put Ryzen ROUGHLY in line with Haswell/Skylake no ? I'm all for wait and see but they did promise and said often enough that they hit their target. I know politicians BS but were all hopefull

SubPar · Feb 19, 2017

im definitely going to look at the baby 4c chip when it finally arrives, im tired of my "6c" 6300

DaveB · Feb 19, 2017

wingman99 said:
Kaby lake already outperforms Ryzen.

With equal cores/threads probably, but the highest end Kaby Lake is the 4C/8T i7-770K. And all AMD Ryzens coming out now are 8C/16T so they will win, even with a modest OC, vs. 4C/8T Kaby Lake CPUs even OC'ing to 5 GHz. We will have to wait until whenever AMD releases the R5 4C/8T and R3 4C/4T CPUs to see benches directly vs. Kaby Lake.

Bluefalcon13 · Feb 19, 2017

DaveB said:
With equal cores/threads probably, but the highest end Kaby Lake is the 4C/8T i7-770K. And all AMD Ryzens coming out now are 8C/16T so they will win, even with a modest OC, vs. 4C/8T Kaby Lake CPUs OC'ing to 5 GHz. We will have to wait until whenever AMD releases the R5 4C/8T and R3 4C/4T CPUs to see benches directly vs. Kaby Lake.

My beef with this is there is always some who will say: "but games dont use all cores!" It is very likely that person doesn't use their computer for transcoding video, at least not a major amount of the time. It depends on the applications a user does to really say the apple is better than the orange. Hence why most people compare a 4C/8T to another of the same type.

Mr.Scott · Feb 19, 2017

Bluefalcon13 said:
My beef with this is there is always some who will say: "but games dont use all cores!" It is very likely that person doesn't use their computer for transcoding video, at least not a major amount of the time. It depends on the applications a user does to really say the apple is better than the orange. Hence why most people compare a 4C/8T to another of the same type.

So.....ask the masses. There are people here that have X99 rigs and 5960X's and 6950X's for their daily rigs. Why not ask what they do with them.
Also, ask why they wouldn't like the same thing at 1/3 the cost.

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