HELP WITH FX 8350 OC TO 4.6 GHZ (FOR NOW) :d

Hi, i was able to reach 4.4 without touching any voltages,stable. ran IBT maximum for 10 cycles without errors. Now this is my bios:




How should i set things and from where i start?

noones help?

Barely over 2 hours...

...that is not long when AMD has been so slow for months now.

Raise Vcore and Cpu ratio and try stability testing again.

RGone...

RGone said:

...that is not long when AMD has been so slow for months now.

Raise Vcore and Cpu ratio and try stability testing again.

RGone...

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so far looks good on 1.43 vcore, max temp reached 59 after half an hour testing with prime95

kilyan said:

so far looks good on 1.43 max temp reached 59 after half an hour testing with prime95

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Post up a screen shot of Hwmonitor "non pro" after running 20 minutes of Prime Blend so we can se what temps you're talking about. Also if you haven't done so already set the Cpu voltage manually, when leaving it on auto the motherboard will usually overshoot more then you need for X oc, to a point.

Mandrake4565 said:

Post up a screen shot of Hwmonitor "non pro" after running 20 minutes of Prime Blend so we can se what temps you're talking about. Also if you haven't done so already set the Cpu voltage manually, when leaving it on auto the motherboard will usually overshoot more then you need for X oc, to a point.

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you mean vcore load line calibration? which is in my bios the feature you are talking about?
here is the screen:

Mandrake4565 said:

Post up a screen shot of Hwmonitor "non pro" after running 20 minutes of Prime Blend so we can se what temps you're talking about. Also if you haven't done so already set the Cpu voltage manually, when leaving it on auto the motherboard will usually overshoot more then you need for X oc, to a point.

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I'm not overcloking from bios, i use easytune 6 gigabyte tool, i set v core from there +0.500
load line calabration has a ton of settings...auto-regular-medium-high-very high-extreme,should i leave it auto?

kilyan said:

I'm not overcloking from bios, i use easytune 6 gigabyte tool, i set v core from there +0.500
load line calabration has a ton of settings...auto-regular-medium-high-very high-extreme,should i leave it auto?

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I don't mind overclocking tools for certain uses such as benching or testing an overclock but it is always recommended to do a daily run Oc in the BIOS. The voltage I was talking about is the Cpu Voltage, it should be set manually in the BIOS because if left on Auto the board will usually give the processor more then it needs, when overclocked. As far as the Cpu Load line Calabration, the goal is finding the setting that will keep the voltage under load as close to the manually set Cpu Voltage when under load. When under load the voltage will "droop" the LLC helps to control this, though, sometimes a certain setting will overshoot the set Cpu voltage dramatically. So a little trial and error will come into play. If the LLC is left on auto and the voltage isn't drooping or overshooting the set Cpu voltage by too much then I'd just leave it there. I normally do not leave my LLC on Auto, I find the board when on Auto doesn't do a very good job of controlling the Cpu voltage when under load. Mine is normally set on High but I'm using an Asus board so you're will likely differ. You may want to try medium or high for starters, first you'll need to set the Cpu Voltage manually to see what setting will be best. Additionally, when posting the Hwmonitor SS show the voltages as well, this way we can see what they are also doing under load. Also include in your next post, a SS of the following tabs in Cpu-Z, Cpu Spd and memory, it will give us a peek under the hood, so to speak.

This is what we need to see if you are going...

...going to need to move away from overclocking genie software. I had no idea you would not overclock from bios.

This is what we need to see for sure and a real good starting point.

Normally during setup and testing we disable C1/E, C6, Cool N Quiet, APM, TurboCore and in windows performance manager itself we set to "performance" mode. ALSO if you have HPC in bios you would ENABLE it. That way there are not "other" settings messing with the overclocking process. Some of those settings are not available on all models of cpu but where in evidence we disable for setup of overclock process.

CPU Tab in CPUz from CPUID com


Memory Tab in CPUz from CPUID com


SPD Tab in CPUz from CPUID com


And this is screen capture of HWMonitor (free version) from CPUID com
HWMonitor has been scrolled enough and large enough to show Min/Max of Voltages and includes the CPU CORE TEMPS / "package" temps fully visible. Latest versions of HWMonitor show the CPU Core Temp as " a Package Temp" and is only shown as a single temp since there were never multple, individual core temp sensors anyway.

This capture is made of HWMonitor after it has been open and running on the desktop logging Min/Max temps and voltages while Prime 95 was running Blend Mode test on all cores for at least 20 mins and then the capture of HWMonitor was made and it shows the Min/Max temps and voltages before P95 Blend was started and while running P95 Blend mode and gives much greater insight into how the system is performing without guessing.



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RGone...

Your software overclocking genie will not have all the controls necessary to progress further.

trents said:

Your software overclocking genie will not have all the controls necessary to progress further.

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now that's strange:if i add + 0.500 from the software, the pc runs and stable at4.6ghz, but if add this from bios, the pc won't even start
O_O. In meantime, i'm adding the cpuz screens, for the stable 4400 i'm currently on:

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HWMONITOR SCREEN BEFORE STRESS:

kilyan said:

now that's strange:if i add + 0.500 from the software, the pc runs and stable at4.6ghz, but if add this from bios, the pc won't even start
O_O.

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Not surprising. Software OC is already into Windows. Boot and OS loading is more stressfull than already starting from a booted system. Bottom line is, it means your not stable enough to boot to the OS.

You need more vcore for those clocks.........and take that vcore off auto, vcore is maxing at 1.65v which will just murder your CPU in a short time.
You need to get control of that for a nice even 1.45v or so..........pending load temps.

HWmon before stress is worthless. I can tell you right now that once you start stressing your vcore and temps will be through the roof in minutes.

Mr.Scott said:

Not surprising. Software OC is already into Windows. Boot and OS loading is more stressfull than already starting from a booted system. Bottom line is, it means your not stable enough to boot to the OS.

You need more vcore for those clocks.........and take that vcore off auto, vcore is maxing at 1.65v which will just murder your CPU in a short time.
You need to get control of that for a nice even 1.45v or so..........pending load temps.

HWmon before stress is worthless. I can tell you right now that once you start stressing your vcore and temps will be through the roof in minutes.

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but i don't understand, i used only the multiplier now for 4400, you mean to take it off when trying 4.6 GHz,right?

No, I mean take it off auto and set it manually NOW. At a 4.4 clock you should never be seeing a 1.65v vcore.
This is what they mean by auto over shooting the voltages. It has to be controlled manually.

AFTER 20 MINUTES...
PS:that 225° is weird

Mr.Scott said:

No, I mean take it off auto and set it manually NOW. At a 4.4 clock you should never be seeing a 1.65v vcore.
This is what they mean by auto over shooting the voltages. It has to be controlled manually.

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During the stress it never reached 1.65 as you can see, i think the sensors are acting weird like the 225°...

I was using gigabyte software to get the fans to maximum,i'll try without this time,maybe was interfering:
reposting hw monitor before stress:

But it DID reach 1.65 on non stress.
If you can't trust the sensors, you're flying blind.

I was using gigabyte software to get the fans to maximum,i'll try without this time,maybe was interfering:

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It will. That's another reason we tell you not to use it.

Mr.Scott said:

But it DID reach 1.65 on non stress.
If you can't trust the sensors, you're flying blind.


It will. That's another reason we tell you not to use it.

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YES I TRASHED ITxD,now temps and voltages seems in order..almost finished stress test and the funs got to maximum alone without the software..mmm, before they never reached 1500 rpms Oo..well better like this