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Used to be ctrl+F4 would close any window without having to click it or resorting to Task Manager. A handy tool when dealing with unwanted malware installation click spaces. Doesn't work in winten. Don't know what key strokes do the same thing in winten.
Hopefully if you're in a large enough IT situation you're using enterprise licensing which nullifies the concern. If you're on professional hopefully the IT guy is using the appropriate group policy settings to block the updater.
All this will stop in two months when Windows 10 is no longer a free upgrade, so they better hurry up and file if they're going to...
The saga continues: KB3035583 is back in the 'Recommended' Windows Update Patch List this morning, tricking you into installing it along with everything else.
Once it's installed, it'll ask if you want to install Windows 10.
If you decide that you don't want to install Windows 10, it will offer you a convenient time to install Windows 10 anyway.
If you decide you don't want to install Windows 10 - your options are Install Windows 10 or 'X', where 'X' means Install Windows 10.
But there is a third option, that will allow you to opt out until next month when it will install it one last time...
Companies that use enterprise are REALLY large. We support many 150 workstation and smaller businesses, not a single one has enterprise/VL/MAK windows licensing. Some of them don't even have all their machines on a domain.
Blocking the updater has been our primary strategy, although not exactly blocking. We manage the updates so we (until a few months ago) were able to just not allow the patches related to GWX. Unfortunately M$ changed the goal post again and is now including GWX components in IE Security patches.
Your posts stinks a bit of "if you're a small business, tough ****". I think it's unfair to say the least to try and pin a single bit of blame on the businesses for the issues Microsoft's strategy is causing, regardless of their size. M$ has created more issues with 'accidental' 10 upgrades recently than all the ransomware cases we've had to handle combined (thankfully both numbers are very low, because of the amount of work WE'RE doing for our clients).
I work for a MSP, fwiw.
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You're assuming they will stop offering it for free. There's no reason to think they will suddenly start charging for something they can only trick people into installing for free.
That was not my intent. I've only worked in two IT places, both of which have 1000-5000 machines/users and we use enterprise licensing. My statement was more related to some horror stories I've heard of decently sized business still not using enterprise licensing and having the **** hit the fan when hundreds of machines randomly got upgraded.
I completely agree with you that what they are doing is about as unfriendly to consumers (and SMB) as possible.
As a home user of windows (never worked in IT).
You should have considered truncating your reply right there...
Okay, I'll at least give you some idea *why* "IT" runs these annoyances called updates... we'll start with - it's the law. HIPAA law requires medical businesses who handle patient information to adhere to certain, baseline technology security requirements. One of them is using an operating system that receives regular security updates (so, no Windows XP, for example). So regardless of how you feel about it, any business in the medical industry touching patient data (which is nearly all of them) must perform windows updates on a regular basis or be out of compliance. If they're out of compliance and they're breached, both the practice/business and the IT company/individuals who signed off on their compliance paperwork (audit) can be fined, etc. This also affects their business insurance rates, which in the medical field are a huge cost.
The same is true for many industries.
And yes you can disable windows updates, so not sure what "Unfortunately there is no enable/disable updates button in the OS which is how Msuck is attacking EVERYONE" means. You can hide updates as well, so not only do they not get applied they don't appear as available updates either. How are you not getting updates?
Do what you want at home. But leave the rest to us.
Problem#1 W10 does not give you all the options mentioned. Third party software is required.
Problem#2 If my company's IT department didn't vet every update before turning it loose on my network, I'd fire people too. Too many M$ updates break things. Again, W10 doesn't allow for that.
With the data mining, ridiculous update policy, and strongarm "upgrade" tactics, I wouldn't put Windows 10 on a business network if all I had was a lemonade stand and a laptop. I don't think habbajabba was saying never update. I believe his point was any IT department that lets M$/Windows do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, is irresponsible in the extreme and isn't doing the job they were paid to do.
works most of the time
It's a good idea to secure a free Windows 10 license, even if you want to revert to Windows 7/8 straight away.
After that there are many tools to help, like
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
and
http://win10wiwi.com/
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...anish-microsofts-unwanted-windows-10-advances
Yeahhhh, I think I'll pass on "upgrading" to reduced functionality and reliability. If I had to change my OS (Say, at gunpoint) to another M$ OS I'd go with Vista. Windows 10 offers me absolutely nothing worth giving up my $100 W7. It would be like trading a Cadillac for a Tesla. LOL
I will likely upgrade the entire machine before a newer version of Windows is installed. Then I will have the difficult decision as to whether I should even stick with Windows. How's Linux looking nowadays, anyway?