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Meaning a highly overclocked much higher power use/TDP than typical CPUs... you know, what the 9590 is.
A 300 watt space heater?
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Meaning a highly overclocked much higher power use/TDP than typical CPUs... you know, what the 9590 is.
AMD x86 Zen Based High-Performance APU Detailed – Rumored To Feature 16 Cores, 16 GB HBM Memory, Greenland iGPU and DDR4 Memory Support
So, to that end... you are looking at $100 difference between a Skylake 4c/8t versus a Hawell-E 6c/8t.
There are just too many unknowns.
Honestly, if Zen "only" lets me have a platform that isn't arbitrarily locked down for overclocking (Intel's "blessed" chipsets/microcode proc SKU's) and lets me imagine what the old stars/Phenom II would be like at 5Ghz I'd be happy with that.
So lets shoot for whatever upper i5 performance is for Intel at the time, at i3 or lower prices.
I'm just tired of how Intel first locked out overclocking on budget motherboards with blowing fuses on the chipset (G41/G/P43) and then after X58 chipset was essentially integrated (Lynnfield) so only "Intel blessed skus" could be overclocked, since Intel now directly controlled the FSB/bus option in a way that creative motherboard makers couldn't circumvent.
I'm done ranting. I get why Intel does it (shareholders suck) and that AMD would likely do the same if they were in the dominant position. But I miss the days of just taking a cheap mobo, proc, good ram, PSU and heasink and beating the crap outta it for under $240.
If ZEN is good it won't be at i3 or lower prices. Not by a longshot. Any more of that and AMD would surely cease to exist. It will be priced accordingly. They will surely be a good bit more expensive than the cpu's AMD is selling for the desktop today.
But, IMHO, it don't mean that it has to be at old skool FX-like prices! (Like socket 940 and pre-Phenom I era) They typically were $700+! (or $600+ if lucky)
The FX60 and FX62 resulted in Intel taking over the performance crown! Because Intel had a better price-to-performance ratio!
AMD making them expensive like Intel 5xxx chips could backfire! We need some good chips in the ballpark of $130 to $190 range. Especially for hex cores!
Looking forward for the new hex cores to basically be a Vishera with better single thread performance. (More balanced, meaning better single thread performance)
I think there's lack of competition and that's possibly why almost all Intels are at roughly $220+.
I'm hoping for a 1070-like moment! (The AMD CPU's version of 1070)
I think you'll be in for a surprise.I have my doubts about the GTX 1070. Titan X for a little over $300? Not buying it, it's probably just got those numbers in VR. And an 8 core 16 thread CPU is not going to be under $600, I guarantee it. Hex cores might, MIGHT, be under $400, or around the $400 range.
I think you'll be in for a surprise.
I very well could be. I'm just saying, I'll believe it when I buy it.
EDIT: I'm curious as to how they would get away with this though? They must really not think AMD has anything inside of Polaris that could threaten them.
At the Q and A session after AMD's press conference, company CEO Lisa Su just confirmed that desktop Zen x86 chips are the first products to arrive for consumers. These will be followed by a server lineup, then a notebook lineup. Sampling happens this quarter for a few key customers and other customers will get its hand of the parts in Q3 2016. The launch obviously comes after.
Expectations are high on Zen and with 40 percent improvement in IPC, which is quite good, it should be competitive with Intel's Broadwell-E. But we still have too few details to go out and say that it will crush the competition.
Lisa was smart to deflect the launch date question and it was just referenced that it happens in the future. One can hope it happens sometime before the end of 2016, with prospects most likely for the fourth quarter.
Competitive with Broadwell-E huh?