Need help cooling my cpu

Seriously?

You've been given good advice since the beginning of this thread!

Unfortunately you are one that's just going to have to learn the hard way, I just hope it doesn't cost you your CPU in the process!

I'm outa here, best of luck to you!

MystD said:

Guess I'm on my own with this.

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Please keep in mind that this is a volunteer forum of enthusiasts not a paid help desk where you can expect a quick awnser. Most of us have a job or 2 plus a family at home that comes first. We are happy to help but you need to be patient as we cannot always respond on your timeline.

My suggestion is to get yourself a new pump and whatever radiator you can afford that is copper. Then ditch that aluminum reservoir and replace out with a plastic one. If you cannot afford one right now take a Tupperware container or Gatorade bottle and silicone something barbs into it until you can afford an actual reservoir. This will remove the aluminum as well as making it a closed loop that will help contain bacterial growth.

Ideally you are going to want 360 of rad for that chip but if you can get to 240 of rad it will at least be serviceable.


The suggestions I make are in no way an ideal system but if you are trying to piecemeal something together and don't mind it being ugly it should at least get you going.

@Lochekey Thank you. I already got a very nice diy glass reservoir. I have no space issues I'll just get the 240 and then test it and just get another one if it's not sufficient.


The ideal answer would have been (which is a bit of mashup of all you answers): You should get at least something like the Corsair H100i Extreme or Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power. If you have to diy it be carefull of mixing copper with aluminium since alu corrodes the copper. (It's called Galvanic Corrosion) There is rust and algae growth in your loop this can kill your pump you should really read up on watercooling it can be very costly if something goes wrong! Here are some links you should watch/read:


http://www.overclockers.com/beginners-guide-water-cooling/
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=228676

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?269467-Watercooling-and-Algae
http://www.overclock.net/t/740318/cleaning-your-loop-after-bacterial-algae-infection-with-pictures


You should also think of using 360 rad with 3 fans since the diy system might not be as efficient as a bought set.
Something like a silver coil (kill coil) could also be something you might want to invest your money in.

MystD said:

@Lochekey Thank you. I already got a very nice diy glass reservoir. I have no space issues I'll just get the 240 and then test it and just get another one if it's not sufficient.


The ideal answer would have been (which is a bit of mashup of all you answers): You should get at least something like the Corsair H100i Extreme or Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power. If you have to diy it be carefull of mixing copper with aluminium since alu corrodes the copper. (It's called Galvanic Corrosion) There is rust and algae growth in your loop this can kill your pump you should really read up on watercooling it can be very costly if something goes wrong! Here are some links you should watch/read:

http://www.overclockers.com/beginners-guide-water-cooling/
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=228676

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?269467-Watercooling-and-Algae
http://www.overclock.net/t/740318/cleaning-your-loop-after-bacterial-algae-infection-with-pictures


You should also think of using 360 rad with 3 fans since the diy system might not be as efficient as a bought set.
Something like a silver coil (kill coil) could also be something you might want to invest your money in.

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Thanks for the summary???

MystD said:

@Lochekey Thank you. I already got a very nice diy glass reservoir. I have no space issues I'll just get the 240 and then test it and just get another one if it's not sufficient.


The ideal answer would have been (which is a bit of mashup of all you answers): You should get at least something like the Corsair H100i Extreme or Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power. If you have to diy it be carefull of mixing copper with aluminium since alu corrodes the copper. (It's called Galvanic Corrosion) There is rust and algae growth in your loop this can kill your pump you should really read up on watercooling it can be very costly if something goes wrong! Here are some links you should watch/read:

http://www.overclockers.com/beginners-guide-water-cooling/
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=228676

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?269467-Watercooling-and-Algae
http://www.overclock.net/t/740318/cleaning-your-loop-after-bacterial-algae-infection-with-pictures


You should also think of using 360 rad with 3 fans since the diy system might not be as efficient as a bought set.
Something like a silver coil (kill coil) could also be something you might want to invest your money in.

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In the other posts you mentioned you already need a pump. You are most likely going to end up spending more $ and likely damaging something along the way if you continue on this trek. IF you're going to do it on the cheap at least get appropriate parts the first time. The CPU you are trying to cool is about 3x hotter than your PII was if not more and needs certain things when it comes to cooling. I have ran many FX CPUs and WC all of them. The list below is what I would recommend for parts. If you can find a reasonable alternative then go ahead.
First is a decent waterblock to absorb the heat from the CPU make sure it has a heavy backplate so you don't warp your board. I use a Koolance 380a
Then some bigger tubing to get enough waterflow to cool the block 1/2 inch ID at the least.
Now the pump, probably the most used/reliable pump is the D5, if you find one with the res attached it'll make things easier for you. You can find decent 300 GPH water -pond pumps that will do the same but the price isn't much different.
For the FX9590 you'll want a minimum of 2x120 but 3x120 radiator would be prefereable.
You make it sound as if the people here aren't trying to help you but we are.
My best advice would be to downclock that CPU and use your air cooler until you can afford the parts to do a decent job of it. The thing about watercooling is you can move it from system to system and should last for many years so future systems won't need new cooling since you already have it. Take a look at some of the pre made kits like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V3R92025 I know it's pricey but in the end will do what you want

I'm sry if it sounded like that, I'm thankfull for any help I get. I was just kinda hoping for a more detailed answers I guess.

Right I didn't think of the waterblock, that could pose a problem. But the one I got right now has to do for now. I'm currently just running 4 cores if that is then also the case with the watercooling it's kinda sucky but it'll have to do.
The Laing D5 is way out of my budget and looks comparable to the Eheim compact+ 3000. The only difference is that the D5 works with 95° C and the Eheim can do 3000l/h. But I'd rather invest the 100eur difference in more/bigger radiators so that the system temp wont go beyond 30 to 40 °C
I'd also like to have a pump with pre filter in case I get algae again.

So I'm thinking about going for:

Pump: Eheim compact+ 3000
Radiator: Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper 360mm or MagiCool Xflow Copper Radiator III
Alphacool HF Hoze Connector FatBoy G1/4" 10mm and get multiple hose connectors so I can cut my current tube into pieces clean it and reconnect the parts to get the correct length again.

Only thing missing is a good reduction since the pump has 20mm outlet and my current tubes are 10/6mm.

I'm aware that this might not work and that I'll have to switch to a bigger tube. The Eheim compact+ 3000 luckily has an adjustable flowrate so I'll just have to try before I buy new tubing for 20 to 40eur.
Then if it doesn't work go for a new waterblock and tubing. The Koolance 380a is a bit pricey, would something like the Watercool Heatkiller IV Basic AMD Acetal be sufficient? I'd use it with 20mm tubing and would have that 1500 to 3000 l/h flowrate.

Just a question: Have you thought that with all the money you are going to throw on the WC setup (+/- $250) plus the cash made by selling your CPU/MoBo/Ram combo (+/- $250), you could get a 6700K setup that would trounce the 9590?

Just another option to mabe explore...

MystD said:

@Lochekey Thank you. I already got a very nice diy glass reservoir. I have no space issues I'll just get the 240 and then test it and just get another one if it's not sufficient.


The ideal answer would have been (which is a bit of mashup of all you answers): You should get at least something like the Corsair H100i Extreme or Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power. If you have to diy it be carefull of mixing copper with aluminium since alu corrodes the copper. (It's called Galvanic Corrosion) There is rust and algae growth in your loop this can kill your pump you should really read up on watercooling it can be very costly if something goes wrong! Here are some links you should watch/read:

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I'd be more worried about using stainless connectors and cheap soldering than mixing Al and Cu

@ Tír na nÓg

I'm using the cpu mainly to render 2D vector and 3d art. So I don't want to use a quad cpu and switching to a intel system would cost me 1k.

@ SalemSaberhagen

Eveything I've chosen is Copper, Chromed Brass or plastic. If there is steel it's only on the outside. So it should be good.

I couldn't find any Hoze Connectors that were made out of copper and if they were they had female 1/4 not male connection.

I just found out that the Eheim compact+ 3000 costs 80eur not 30. Damn sellers put in in for 30 on a listing but it wasn't the right pump or just parts.

Guess there is no escape from the 200eur for the whole setup.....

Makes sense to me at this point to 'do it right'.

I still could cheap out with the WPDC-10.8L-4.8M-24 pump but I used the WPDC-06.5l-8.5m-24VP before which died really fast. So I'm reluctant if I should go for it. This version can do 105°C and 6.1m but the flowrate is just 630l/h.
The price is just 25eur though, it's really cheap.

I think I'm gonna go for:

Block: Watercool Heatkiller IV Basic AMD Acetal
Connectors: XSPC Connector 1/4" to 13mm
Radiator: MagiCool Xflow Copper Radiator III
Pump: WPDC-10.8L-4.8M-24
Tube: Leftover 13mm Garden Hose (choosing this since it's already there and black rubber, so no light = no algae)

This would be a total cost of 133eur and the worst thing that can happen is that the pump dies in 2 years after the warranty again.

Any objections like the pumps flow rate is too low or the XSPC Connector is a bad choice or something?

Your gonna want to go with different tubing. Black rubber house will cause problems when it sheds and algae will still grow.

Damn ok + Masterkleer PVC 15,9/12,7mm it is then. Goes up to 142eur then, guess that's as cheap as I can get it.

Hope this setup works well. Thanks for all the help!

It took a while until I could afford everything, it's running now. But I think the pump has a too low flowrate, when all 8 cores are 100% used temp goes from 22 to 60 - 64 °C. The pump normally runs at 15V but it can go up to 26V but using it with 26V improves the temp not much. It's still around 59 to 63 °C. The flowrate is 10,8 l/min (648l/h) Is this because of the flowrate or could this be something else?

What kind of block do you have for the CPU ? This part is crucial for good cooling. Also is that the core temp or socket. Can you post a pic of HWMonitor free with the CPU under load.
My guess at this point is that's the socket temp and you're going to need some fans on the VRM and socket area. Like these

Watercool Heatkiller IV Basic AMD Acetal

Using a fan behind the board is gonna be a pain in the ***, I have wallmounted my computer.....

I'm using coretemp:



The temp also drops almost instantly to 22 to 30 °C when I stop encoding/rendering.

Well encoding is a pretty full workload for sure. I'd still like to see HWMonitor free and can you host the pics here. 3rd icon over in the reply box some people have a hard time with hosting sites and this way the pic stays here for future reference.
That fan behind the mobo dropped my socket temps almost 10c
EDIT: HWMonitor shows both temps where coretemp only shows one.

Here you go: