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    Question New system, new Case

    Im looking at building a new system, I currently have a Fractal Design Define XLR2. While this is a great chassis I have some minor gripes about the case specifically in the cooling and size departments. My Goal is to downsize to a Midtower however maintaining the cooling capacity. What I am wanting to contain is a custom loop consisting of a 420 & 280 pair of radiators. The difficult challenge in this seems to be the compromises of such a goal. Either I have to move to a full tower or compromise in quality for the same form factor.

    I have looked in to cases such as the Define S and Enthoo Series. Of course there are other options such as case labs, I don't feel this is the right time to purchase one of their cases currently for this build though they are great products IMO. So what I am looking into more specifically is if there are other cases in the wild that I may have missed. My goal again is Midtower with cooling capacity for at least 420/280 config, and if anyone has another solution not listed as of yet I am all ears.
    Processor ------- AMD FX 8320 @ 4.5GHz - 1.3V
    Motherboard --- Gigabyte 990FX-UD3
    Memory ---------- G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3-2400 @ 2143 MHz - 1.65V
    Power Supply --- Corsair RM750
    Video Card ------ Gigabyte Geforce GTX 760 @ 1.12 GHz Core - 7.0 GHz Memory
    Primary ---------- 120GB SAMSUNG EVO
    Secondary ------ 1TB Samsung HDD
    Tertiary --------- Dual 2TB Seagate HDD
    Chassis --------- Fractal Design Define XL R2

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    Quite a few people have looked at this post but no replies

    I have probably narrowed the selection down to the Define S vs Define R5. Some things that I have noticed is the build quality of the R5 is better from what I can tell. Does anyone have any input on that aspect?
    Processor ------- AMD FX 8320 @ 4.5GHz - 1.3V
    Motherboard --- Gigabyte 990FX-UD3
    Memory ---------- G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3-2400 @ 2143 MHz - 1.65V
    Power Supply --- Corsair RM750
    Video Card ------ Gigabyte Geforce GTX 760 @ 1.12 GHz Core - 7.0 GHz Memory
    Primary ---------- 120GB SAMSUNG EVO
    Secondary ------ 1TB Samsung HDD
    Tertiary --------- Dual 2TB Seagate HDD
    Chassis --------- Fractal Design Define XL R2

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    Both the Define S and the R5 are very good cases. The issue you're going to run into is finding a mid tower case that can house a 420mm radiator. They're just not that common of a size. Here's a couple more options for you though.

    Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (Actually very much a knockoff of the R5)

    Thermaltake Core V51

    Also, don't sleep on Rosewill. They have some impressive cases for the price. They're not top of the line but offer many features and the quality is better that I expected.

    Best of luck~
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    My only issue with Thermaltake case has and always has been build quality. I understand the goals I have are somewhat out of the norm, but I want a smaller system

    I am sure I could mod the XLR2 as it sits for what I'm looking for but to see my goal take effect would not be very reasonable as of now.

    I am trying to stay away from 120mm fans TBH it has been a personal crusade of mine for quite some time now, and slowly the manufacturers are starting to embrace them.. somewhat.
    Processor ------- AMD FX 8320 @ 4.5GHz - 1.3V
    Motherboard --- Gigabyte 990FX-UD3
    Memory ---------- G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3-2400 @ 2143 MHz - 1.65V
    Power Supply --- Corsair RM750
    Video Card ------ Gigabyte Geforce GTX 760 @ 1.12 GHz Core - 7.0 GHz Memory
    Primary ---------- 120GB SAMSUNG EVO
    Secondary ------ 1TB Samsung HDD
    Tertiary --------- Dual 2TB Seagate HDD
    Chassis --------- Fractal Design Define XL R2

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    Short of the 420 rad you have, this case packs a pretty decent punch while retaining a somewhat smallish profile:

    http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/carbide...-atx-cube-case

    Dimensions (L x W x H) 426 x 340 x 510mm
    Maximum GPU Length: 330mm
    Maximum CPU Cooler Height: 170mm
    Maximum PSU Length: 225mm
    Expansion Slots: 8
    5.25” Drive bays: N/A
    3.5” Hard Drive Bays: 3
    2.5” Drive Bays: 4


    Cooling Layout:
    Front: 3 x 120mm or 2 x 140mm (2 x 140mm included)
    Top: 2 x 120/140mm
    Bottom: 2 x 120/140mm
    Rear: 1 x 120/140mm (included)
    Radiator Compatibility:
    360mm:Front only
    280mm: Front, Top, or Bottom
    240mm: Front, Top, or Bottom
    140mm: Front, Top, Bottom, or Rear
    120mm: Front, Top, or Rear
    Dust filters on all intakes
    Front I/O Panel includes: USB 3.0 port (2), Headphone and Microphone jacks, Power on, Reset, and LED buttons

    The only thing is it doesn't quite fit your 420 rad, with a max size of 360.

    It does have the ability to fit three(Plus a single 140mm rad on the rear) separate rads though, so maybe if you wanted to spend a bit of money for two additional rads to make up for it. /shrug. I personally abhor the front panel look though, and no 5.25 bays hurts as well. I always found those bays to be very useful.

    It does meet your "No 120mm fan" critera as well.
    CPU:------------Intel Core I7 6700k@4.4 GHz
    Heatsink:------------Cryorig H5A White
    Motherboard:-Asrock Z170 - Extreme 6
    Memory:-------2x4gb Corsair DDR4 3000 MHZ 15-17-17-35
    Power Supply:Kingwin Lazer Gold series 850w
    Video Card:---XFX Hardswap edition RX480 8gb
    Case:-----------Corsair Air 540 Silver/black edition
    HDD:------------TOSHIBA PH3300U-1I72/Western Digital Caviar Black 1tb
    SSD:------------Samsung 850 EVO 500GB

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    Can I ask what your beef is with 120mm fans? They've been the industry standard for I'd guess 15 years or more and the improvements they have made to them over this time span is incredible.
    The Rodeo Clown Oath: I Blaylock, do solemnly swear, to not let my Rig die of old age. I will burn it, fry it, freeze it, smash it and crash it til there is only ash and smoke. This I swear on this day 08/05/2014.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressor1137 View Post
    Short of the 420 rad you have, this case packs a pretty decent punch while retaining a somewhat smallish profile:

    http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/carbide...-atx-cube-case

    Dimensions (L x W x H) 426 x 340 x 510mm
    Maximum GPU Length: 330mm
    Maximum CPU Cooler Height: 170mm
    Maximum PSU Length: 225mm
    Expansion Slots: 8
    5.25 Drive bays: N/A
    3.5 Hard Drive Bays: 3
    2.5 Drive Bays: 4


    Cooling Layout:
    Front: 3 x 120mm or 2 x 140mm (2 x 140mm included)
    Top: 2 x 120/140mm
    Bottom: 2 x 120/140mm
    Rear: 1 x 120/140mm (included)
    Radiator Compatibility:
    360mm:Front only
    280mm: Front, Top, or Bottom
    240mm: Front, Top, or Bottom
    140mm: Front, Top, Bottom, or Rear
    120mm: Front, Top, or Rear
    Dust filters on all intakes
    Front I/O Panel includes: USB 3.0 port (2), Headphone and Microphone jacks, Power on, Reset, and LED buttons

    The only thing is it doesn't quite fit your 420 rad, with a max size of 360.

    It does have the ability to fit three(Plus a single 140mm rad on the rear) separate rads though, so maybe if you wanted to spend a bit of money for two additional rads to make up for it. /shrug. I personally abhor the front panel look though, and no 5.25 bays hurts as well. I always found those bays to be very useful.

    It does meet your "No 120mm fan" critera as well.
    The primary issue, as i stated, is my preference is towards 140mm fans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaylock View Post
    Can I ask what your beef is with 120mm fans? They've been the industry standard for I'd guess 15 years or more and the improvements they have made to them over this time span is incredible.
    More airflow per fan(slightly more space req.), typically quieter operation for the same cooling capacity, etc., etc.
    Processor ------- AMD FX 8320 @ 4.5GHz - 1.3V
    Motherboard --- Gigabyte 990FX-UD3
    Memory ---------- G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3-2400 @ 2143 MHz - 1.65V
    Power Supply --- Corsair RM750
    Video Card ------ Gigabyte Geforce GTX 760 @ 1.12 GHz Core - 7.0 GHz Memory
    Primary ---------- 120GB SAMSUNG EVO
    Secondary ------ 1TB Samsung HDD
    Tertiary --------- Dual 2TB Seagate HDD
    Chassis --------- Fractal Design Define XL R2

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    That may be true for case fans, but for radiators static pressure is more important that CFM's. The 120's generally out perform the 140's in that aspect. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to resurrect a 10 year old debate. That's been done enough. Just making sure we're all on the same page.

    With that said if you already have the 420mm rad then you'll just have limited options. There are good options, just not as many.
    The Rodeo Clown Oath: I Blaylock, do solemnly swear, to not let my Rig die of old age. I will burn it, fry it, freeze it, smash it and crash it til there is only ash and smoke. This I swear on this day 08/05/2014.


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