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    6600k to 7700k?

    Would it be worth the upgrade to go from a i-5 6600k to an i-7 7700k on a z170 chipset for gaming at 4k? I just upgraded to the 1080 Ti, just want to know if it would be worth the hassle to upgrade/flash the bios. I have the 6600k running @4.4 and would hope for 4.9-5 if I switched to the 7700k. This is a gaming rig, I bench for fun but games and keeping it future proof are my biggest concerns.
    4k gaming rig:
    Core i5 6600k @4.4
    Asrock Z170 Gaming k6
    Corsair RM850
    G. Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 16gig
    EVGA GTX 1080 Ti Founder's edition
    CM Storm Stryker white
    Mushkin Enhanced Reactor 1tb SSD
    CM Hyper D92
    48" curved 4k screen

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    All things being equal with regard to the silicon lottery, a Z170 board may not overclock a Kaby Lake CPU as well as a Z270 motherboard since it isn't opimized for Kaby Lake. Typically, the Kaby Lake "k" CPUs will overclock about .2 ghz higher than their Skylake counterparts when the Kaby is used on a Z270 board. At any rate, you are not talking about enough difference to justify the expense IMO.

    Say, how do you like your Mushkin Reactor 1TB SSD. I've got one of those laying around.
    CPU: i5-7600k@4.8ghz
    Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Killer SLI/ac
    Cooler: Custom loop with Swiftech MCP50X pump, EK-Spremacy Evo block, Koolance 360x29mm 30 fins per in. radiator, 38x120mm 4000rpm Delta fans on Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme fan speed controller
    RAM: 2x8 gb Crucial 2400 Ballistic DDR4
    GPU: XFX Rx480 8gb/1080p Asus monitor
    Case: NZXT Source 530
    PSU: OCZ 750W
    Storage: Segate 480 gb SSD + 1x1tb spinner
    OS: Windows 10

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    For me the difference in games just isnt worth the cost you are talking 2-5 fps in most games probably less @ 4k . heck for me it isnt worth the cost to go from my haswell to a Kabby (5-10fps).
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    Hyperthreading might help some on new titles but you won't see a massive gain. Plus using the z170 will probably not help matters.

    Also the 7700k TIM seems to be worse than the 6xxx series. So temps will become a bigger issues from my experience.

    I would wait. By the time you would feel any type of difference there will be much more powerful chips to pick from.

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    Thanks guys, I will hold off then.

    Quote Originally Posted by trents View Post
    All things being equal with regard to the silicon lottery, a Z170 board may not overclock a Kaby Lake CPU as well as a Z270 motherboard since it isn't opimized for Kaby Lake. Typically, the Kaby Lake "k" CPUs will overclock about .2 ghz higher than their Skylake counterparts when the Kaby is used on a Z270 board. At any rate, you are not talking about enough difference to justify the expense IMO.

    Say, how do you like your Mushkin Reactor 1TB SSD. I've got one of those laying around.
    I like it, I have had it for about 18 months or so and I have had no issues. The SSDs don't seem to work as well in Windows 10 as they did in Windows 7 though, but I think that is just a Windows issue and not the SSD.
    4k gaming rig:
    Core i5 6600k @4.4
    Asrock Z170 Gaming k6
    Corsair RM850
    G. Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 16gig
    EVGA GTX 1080 Ti Founder's edition
    CM Storm Stryker white
    Mushkin Enhanced Reactor 1tb SSD
    CM Hyper D92
    48" curved 4k screen

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    Check and make sure "trim" is enabled in Windows 10 for the SSD or it will fail prematurely. Early on, it was not enabled by default in Windows 10. I think recent updates have changed that but I would make sure nonetheless.
    CPU: i5-7600k@4.8ghz
    Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Killer SLI/ac
    Cooler: Custom loop with Swiftech MCP50X pump, EK-Spremacy Evo block, Koolance 360x29mm 30 fins per in. radiator, 38x120mm 4000rpm Delta fans on Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme fan speed controller
    RAM: 2x8 gb Crucial 2400 Ballistic DDR4
    GPU: XFX Rx480 8gb/1080p Asus monitor
    Case: NZXT Source 530
    PSU: OCZ 750W
    Storage: Segate 480 gb SSD + 1x1tb spinner
    OS: Windows 10

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    You are doing fine with the i5 6600k. Mine is clocked to 4.5GHz and the FPS is 144 in BF1, gears of war-4 is 160 FPS.
    i5 6600K OC 4.5GHz
    Cooler Master Hyper 212
    Motherboard Gigabyte Z170-HD3
    G.SKILL Ripjaws v 16GB F4-3200C14D-16GVK XMP Speed 3200 CL 14-14-14-34
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    Quote Originally Posted by ||Console|| View Post
    For me the difference in games just isnt worth the cost you are talking 2-5 fps in most games probably less @ 4k . heck for me it isnt worth the cost to go from my haswell to a Kabby (5-10fps).
    Include the cost of Windows 10 in that move for any z170 chipset and up. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft...124409597.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaric View Post
    Include the cost of Windows 10 in that move for any z170 chipset and up. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft...124409597.html
    30$ doesn't really make or break a build.
    4670k @ 4.8ghz 1.45v
    Asus 950gtx 2gig + 225 GPU + 400 Mem
    Gigabyte z97x-ud3h-bk
    Hyper X 16gig 1600mhz
    Samsung 850 evo 500 gig
    Corsair TX750
    Define S
    Cooling = Heatkiller copper (CPU block) / 3x120 / 2x120 / DD TDX (on my gfx card) / D5 Pump / Bits power water tank-z

    " If that Bong is filled with the right stuff you wouldn't give a damn how much noise the cooling system made lol" ViperJohn

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    Fair point. LOL and there seems to be some questions about the quality of that article. "Yahoo", almost as accurate as fudzilla. LOL
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    My i5-6600K:
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    I just did this exact upgrade and am happy with the performance of the 7700k. I had my 6600k at a stable 4.7ghz but was utilizing nearly 100% CPU in recent game titles. Now that I have upgraded to the Predator X34 and a 1080ti the higher frame rate needs a good CPU to back it up. I am however disappointed with the overclock ability of my Asus Maximus VIII z170 with my 7700. As stated above the z170 board will work but not exactly optimized for the 7th gen processors. When I run the 5 way optimization it only bumps my base clock to 46...only .1 MHz over stock. Might need to look into a new board 😒

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    Worth it... my favorite question which has nkthing to do with us...lol!

    If you can use more threads, sure, why not.

    @ kenny - overclock it manually.

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    Lol...My wife says the same thing...Do you really need that Ulta wide monitor, that 1080ti, that 1 TB M.2 SSD, that fill in the blank... Nope, but I'm gonna get it cause I want to and can

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny4128 View Post
    Lol...My wife says the same thing...Do you really need that Ulta wide monitor, that 1080ti, that 1 TB M.2 SSD, that fill in the blank... Nope, but I'm gonna get it cause I want to and can

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    That's exactly how I ended up with my rig-minus the whole wife part. LOL
    Intel i7-6700K@ 4600 MHz @1.380v
    Gigabyte Z170 Gaming 7
    GSkill TridentZ 16 GB DDR4@ 3000MHz 14-14-14-34
    Galax GTX 1070 HOF w/Limited Edition BIOS
    Deepcool Captain 360 AIO
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    WD Blue HDD 4 TB. Really. It works. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny4128 View Post
    Lol...My wife says the same thing...Do you really need that Ulta wide monitor, that 1080ti, that 1 TB M.2 SSD, that fill in the blank... Nope, but I'm gonna get it cause I want to and can

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    I got 5GHz on my Z170 board with 7700K just by clicking on the "Overclock i7-7700K to 5.0GHz" button. Running an Evo 212 and max temps while gaming is 70c. Pretty happy with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadSmiley View Post
    I got 5GHz on my Z170 board with 7700K just by clicking on the "Overclock i7-7700K to 5.0GHz" button. Running an Evo 212 and max temps while gaming is 70c. Pretty happy with that.
    That is great what motherboard do you have?
    i5 6600K OC 4.5GHz
    Cooler Master Hyper 212
    Motherboard Gigabyte Z170-HD3
    G.SKILL Ripjaws v 16GB F4-3200C14D-16GVK XMP Speed 3200 CL 14-14-14-34
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman99 View Post
    That is great what motherboard do you have?
    Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5. Got it in a trade and it has sat for a couple of months. This will be my new system, replacing my GA-x79-UD3 & E5-1650 @ 4.2GHz.
    I had to borrow my son's 6700K to flash the BIOS before it would see the 7700K. After that it was smooth sailing.
    Sager NP8278-S 17.3" | i7-48010QQM | 16GB | nVidia GTX 980M | 1TB SSD | 1TB & 2TB HDD | 1080p | Win7 Pro
    Alienware M17x R4 | i7-3720QM | 16GB | Quadro M4000M 4GB | 256GB SSD | 1080p | Win 7 Pro
    Alienware M15x | i7-940XM | 8GB RAM | Quadro M4000M 4GB | 480GB SSD | 1080p | Win 7 Pro
    Alienware M15x | i7-920XM | 8GB RAM | AMD 8970M | 256GB SSD | 1080p | Win 7 Pro
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadSmiley View Post
    Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5. Got it in a trade and it has sat for a couple of months. This will be my new system, replacing my GA-x79-UD3 & E5-1650 @ 4.2GHz.
    I had to borrow my son's 6700K to flash the BIOS before it would see the 7700K. After that it was smooth sailing.
    That is great. I have a Gigabyte Z170 with i5 6600k that I would like to upgrade to a i7 7700k if it goes on sale.
    i5 6600K OC 4.5GHz
    Cooler Master Hyper 212
    Motherboard Gigabyte Z170-HD3
    G.SKILL Ripjaws v 16GB F4-3200C14D-16GVK XMP Speed 3200 CL 14-14-14-34
    EVGA Black Edition Superclocked GTX 1070

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