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ChanceCoats123 · 08-05-09, 11:47 PM

DESKTOP PLATFORM

Processors

Socket Am3

Thuban

6mb L3
1090T¹ 125w: Hexa at 3.2ghz
1050 125w: Hexa at 2.8ghz

Deneb

6mb L3
965 BE¹ 140w C2/125w C3: Quad at 3.4ghz
955 BE¹ 125w C2/ 125w C3: Quad at 3.2ghz
945 125w C2/ 95w C3: Quad at 3ghz
925 95w C2/ 95w C3: Quad at 2.8ghz
910e 65w: Quad at 2.6ghz
905e 65w: Quad at 2.5ghz
900e 65w: Quad at 2.4ghz

4mb L3
810 95w: Quad at 2.6ghz
805 95w: Quad at 2.5ghz

Business Class (6mb L3)
B95 95w: Quad at 3ghz
B93 95w: Quad at 2.8ghz

Heka

6mb L3
720 BE¹ 95w: Trike at 2.8ghz
710 95w: Trike at 2.6ghz
705e 65w: Trike at 2.5ghz
700e 65w: Trike at 2.4ghz

Business Class (6mb L3)
B75 95w: Trike at 3ghz
B73 95w: Trike at 2.8ghz

Callisto

6mb L3
555 BE¹ 80w C3: Dualie at 3.2ghz
550 BE¹ 80w C2/ 80w C3: Dualie at 3.1ghz
545 80w C2/ 80w C3: Dualie at 3ghz

Business Class (6mb L3)
B55 80w: Dualie at 3ghz
B53 80w: Dualie at 2.8ghz

Propus

No L3
640 95w: QUad at 3ghz
635 95w: Quad at 2.9ghz
630 95w: Quad at 2.8ghz
620 95w: Quad at 2.6ghz
605e 45w: Quad at 2.3ghz
600e 45w: Quad at 2.2ghz

Rana

No L3
445 95w: Trike at 3.1ghz
440 95w: Trike at 3ghz
435 95w: Trike at 2.9ghz
425 95w: Trike at 2.7ghz
405e 45w: Trike at 2.3ghz
400e 45w: Trike at 2.2ghz

Regor

No L3
260 65w: Dualie at 3.2ghz
255 65w: Dualie at 3.1ghz
250 65w: Dualie at 3ghz
245 65w: Dualie at 2.9ghz
240 65w: Dualie at 2.8ghz
240e 45w: Dualie at 2.8ghz
235e 45w: Dualie at 2.7ghz
215 65w: Dualie at 2.7ghz
260u 25w: Dualie at 1.8ghz
250u 25w: Dualie at 1.6ghz

Business Class (No L3)
B24 65w: Dualie at 3ghz
B22 65w: Dualie at 2.8ghz

Socket Am2+

Deneb

6mb L3
940 BE¹ 125w: Quad at 3.0ghz
920 125w: Quad at 2.8ghz

¹ = Black Edition (unlocked multiplier).

Processor and Socket Compatibilities

Motherboard Sockets

Socket Am2

940 contacts in a "Pin Grid Array." Stock bus of 200mhz. Hyper Transport 2 @ 1ghz (1000mhz) (Max speed). Single power plane for cores and IMC.

Supports ALL socket Am2 and Am2+ processors, but will be limited to a Hyper Transport speed of 1ghz (1000mhz). May socket Am3 processors, but will be limited to a Hyper Transport speed of 1ghz (1000mhz) also.

Socket Am2+

940 contacts in a "Pin Grid Array." Stock bus of 200mhz. Hyper Transport 3 @ 2.6ghz (2600mhz) (Max speed). Split power planes: One for processing cores and one for the IMC.

Supports ALL socket Am2 and Am2+ processors. May support Am3 socket processors with a BIOS update, but cannot run DDR3.

Socket Am3

941 contacts in a "Pin Grid Array." Stock bus of 200mhz. Hyper Transport 3.x @ 3.2ghz (3200mhz) (Max speed). Split power planes: One for processing core and one for the IMC.

Supports ALL socket Am3 processors. Will run DDR3. DDR2 is questionable, but not confirmed to run with a Socket Am3 Processor in an Am3 socket motherboard.

Processors

Socket Am2

940 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939, 940 or Am3 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 alone. Hyper Transport speeds up to 1ghz (1000mhz).

Socket Am2+

940 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939, 940 or Am3 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 alone. Hyper Transport speeds up to 2.6ghz (2600mhz).

Note: Am2 and Am2+ processors are NOT forward compatible with any socket Am3 mother boards.

Socket Am3

938 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939 or 940 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 and DDR3. Hyper Transport speeds up to 3.2ghz (3200mhz).

Core Unlocking.

This section is not really finished, nor will it ever be, but I have a link from Psykoikonov having to do with core unlocking on the 720-705e's and 550-545's.

Link to ES forum.

On another note, the 810's have been noted to unlock the 2mb's of L3 cache that are still on die. I have a linky to this but I know nothing else. I believe the method was the same as unlocking cores, but I have also heard there was nothing required to unlock the cache.

Guide made with the help of Archer0915 and Psykoikonov. Feel free to tell me if you want anything added or edited.

Parad0x420 · 08-06-09, 12:02 AM

nice list Chance

ChanceCoats123 · 08-06-09, 12:04 AM

Thank you much! Anyone, feel free to correct something I put or mention something you think should be added!

ChanceCoats123 · 08-06-09, 08:43 PM

Bump for core unlocking section addition. Slight revision from Archer0915 as well (grammar).

Archer0915 · 08-06-09, 09:06 PM

Chance you need to add the fact that the AM2/AM2+ CPU's are not forward compatible to AM3. If it is there I missed it.

nzaneb · 08-06-09, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer0915

Chance you need to add the fact that the AM2/AM2+ CPU's are not forward compatible to AM3. If it is there I missed it.

He got it... you just missed it

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChanceCoats123

Processors

Socket Am2

940 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939, 940 or Am3 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 alone. Hyper Transport speeds up to 1ghz (1000mhz).

Socket Am2+

940 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939, 940 or Am3 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 alone. Hyper Transport speeds up to 2.6ghz (2600mhz).

Socket Am3

938 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939 or 940 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 and DDR3. Hyper Transport speeds up to 3.2ghz (3200mhz).

Nice job Chance

ChanceCoats123 · 08-06-09, 10:12 PM

Yup yup yup! And the fact that Am3 boards only take DDR3 (to my knowledge) is another reason but I will edit to make it more clear

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Edit: Edited it and by the way, thanks nzaneb!

QuietIce · 08-07-09, 12:35 AM

You might add in the BE component as well - that makes a big difference to a lot of people.

Otherwise - Good Job!!!

ChanceCoats123 · 08-07-09, 12:42 AM

Thanks for the input as well as the nice job! Popped them in for the chips. Just had to find the right way to do it! I just realized the vast amount of information that is stuffed into this chart!

Edit: Also added the 810 cache unlocking to the "core unlocking" section.

QuietIce · 08-07-09, 01:06 AM

I might have kept the designation down to BE* (i.e., "955BE*") with a footnote showing "*Black Edition (unlocked multiplier)" or something like that - just to make the chart cleaner.

But your way is good too ...

ChanceCoats123 · 08-07-09, 01:40 PM

Hmmm. I agree. It looks a bit more cluttered and you have to read more to get to the speed of the processor. Will do!

Edit: Used a color-coded super script. I think it looks good

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Dolk · 08-07-09, 01:43 PM

Very nice GJ Chance!

ChanceCoats123 · 08-07-09, 01:46 PM

Thanks Dolk! Believe it or not, but that actually means a bit since you have done so much with PII's! Hahaha

nzaneb · 08-07-09, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChanceCoats123

Edit: Used a color-coded super script. I think it looks good

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Ahhhh... fancy!

j/k... looks good, less clutter, and is a step in the professional direction.

ChanceCoats123 · 08-07-09, 04:02 PM

Why thank you nzaneb!

stevejr · 08-07-09, 11:44 PM

Good info...helps in clarifying a lot of confusion about what fits or what doesn't fit between AM2/AM2+ and the AM3 stuff.

I was confused until QuietIce and Trents cleared it up for me , so I'm sure that this will help in the same way.

ChanceCoats123 · 08-07-09, 11:49 PM

Yupp. I figured I would just take all[or most of] the information having to do with the new cpu's and boards because we seriously get a "is my board compatible" thread every other day if not every day. But thanks for the compliments!

xsuperbgx · 08-08-09, 10:46 AM

callisto is BE,not regor

ChanceCoats123 · 08-08-09, 12:05 PM

Good call! Thanks for that. I edited it.

stevejr · 08-08-09, 11:29 PM

I have a question: The AM3 board has 941 contacts...but the AM3 processor only has 938 pins...?

ChanceCoats123 · 08-08-09, 11:40 PM

Yupp. Amd will be filling those the pins in the future. There is an article about Am3 that Tom'sHardware did and they broke off two pins from a Phenom II 940 so it would fit in an Am3 board and it wouldn't run in an Am3, but ran in an Am2+ which means Amd did something other than removing two cpu pins.

stevejr · 08-09-09, 12:25 AM

Ah...I was wondering of it had something to do with future expansion...thanks.

ChanceCoats123 · 08-09-09, 12:36 AM

Yes sir it does! If you have any more questions feel free to ask!

Roachgod · 08-09-09, 12:42 AM

whats the difference if any on the 945's besides wattage?

ChanceCoats123 · 08-09-09, 12:46 AM

Just the wattage. I believe it was made as an Am3 quad for lower wattage sockets. As far as I know, both chips are locked upwards on the multiplier and everything else is the same.

Ahgemon · 08-09-09, 07:14 AM

need some intel on memory limitation concerning the

Regor

L3-less
250 65w: Dualie at 3ghz
245 65w: Dualie at 2.9ghz
240 65w: Dualie at 2.8ghz

looked up the AthlonII x2 250 on google, memory configurations are mentioned for DDR2 (pc6400) 800mhz, and DDR3 1066, not DDR2 pc8500 1066mhz like what I have.

the asus board in my sig states in the manual that due to cpu limitation only 1 ddr2 pc8500 1066 memory dim per channel will work, there are 4 memory banks so I am assuming they mean 1 each, 2 of the 4 banks, so at this point, 4 Gigabytes of ddr2 pc 8500.

thats just this one motherboard, my question is, does this line of chips from AMD support ddr2 pc 8500 1066 ram, or will it automatically adjust down to 800mhz?

here is a link for technical specifications

http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...omparison.aspx

anyone have a athlon2 x2 250 set up with some pc8500 and some proven results? if not I will soon find out with the parts I have.

QuietIce · 08-09-09, 08:55 AM

All the Phenom II AM2+ CPUs were listed like that. There is sometimes an issue with 1066 RAM but not always. AMD and the board manufacturers put that up there to cover their butt in case the CPU/board combination triggers a problem.

IMO, that notation should NOT be included in the list since it doesn't always hold true. However, I think it's good you brought the subject up so it's in the thread ...

ChanceCoats123 · 08-09-09, 11:05 AM

Quiet basically said it all. I believe the ram issues were with the first gen. Am2+ Phenom II's such as the 940 and 920. The only other ram issues I have heard about are really motherboard issues having to do with DDR3 1600 working to its full specs. Also note, that since the 2xx series is Am3, you can run DDR3 in those (up to 1333mhz IIRC).

ChanceCoats123 · 10-01-09, 08:02 PM

Updated to accommodate Propus cores. Sorry it was so late, been pretty busy with football and school.

QuietIce · 10-02-09, 04:42 AM

"No L3" might be a better descriptor ...

08-05-09, 11:47 PM	#1
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Phenom II and Athlon II Processors and Socket Compatibilites [Simplified]. DESKTOP PLATFORM Processors Socket Am3 Thuban 6mb L3 1090T¹ 125w: Hexa at 3.2ghz 1050 125w: Hexa at 2.8ghz Deneb 6mb L3 965 BE¹ 140w C2/125w C3: Quad at 3.4ghz 955 BE¹ 125w C2/ 125w C3: Quad at 3.2ghz 945 125w C2/ 95w C3: Quad at 3ghz 925 95w C2/ 95w C3: Quad at 2.8ghz 910e 65w: Quad at 2.6ghz 905e 65w: Quad at 2.5ghz 900e 65w: Quad at 2.4ghz 4mb L3 810 95w: Quad at 2.6ghz 805 95w: Quad at 2.5ghz Business Class (6mb L3) B95 95w: Quad at 3ghz B93 95w: Quad at 2.8ghz Heka 6mb L3 720 BE¹ 95w: Trike at 2.8ghz 710 95w: Trike at 2.6ghz 705e 65w: Trike at 2.5ghz 700e 65w: Trike at 2.4ghz Business Class (6mb L3) B75 95w: Trike at 3ghz B73 95w: Trike at 2.8ghz Callisto 6mb L3 555 BE¹ 80w C3: Dualie at 3.2ghz 550 BE¹ 80w C2/ 80w C3: Dualie at 3.1ghz 545 80w C2/ 80w C3: Dualie at 3ghz Business Class (6mb L3) B55 80w: Dualie at 3ghz B53 80w: Dualie at 2.8ghz Propus No L3 640 95w: QUad at 3ghz 635 95w: Quad at 2.9ghz 630 95w: Quad at 2.8ghz 620 95w: Quad at 2.6ghz 605e 45w: Quad at 2.3ghz 600e 45w: Quad at 2.2ghz Rana No L3 445 95w: Trike at 3.1ghz 440 95w: Trike at 3ghz 435 95w: Trike at 2.9ghz 425 95w: Trike at 2.7ghz 405e 45w: Trike at 2.3ghz 400e 45w: Trike at 2.2ghz Regor No L3 260 65w: Dualie at 3.2ghz 255 65w: Dualie at 3.1ghz 250 65w: Dualie at 3ghz 245 65w: Dualie at 2.9ghz 240 65w: Dualie at 2.8ghz 240e 45w: Dualie at 2.8ghz 235e 45w: Dualie at 2.7ghz 215 65w: Dualie at 2.7ghz 260u 25w: Dualie at 1.8ghz 250u 25w: Dualie at 1.6ghz Business Class (No L3) B24 65w: Dualie at 3ghz B22 65w: Dualie at 2.8ghz Socket Am2+ Deneb 6mb L3 940 BE¹ 125w: Quad at 3.0ghz 920 125w: Quad at 2.8ghz ¹ = Black Edition (unlocked multiplier). Processor and Socket Compatibilities Motherboard Sockets Socket Am2 940 contacts in a "Pin Grid Array." Stock bus of 200mhz. Hyper Transport 2 @ 1ghz (1000mhz) (Max speed). Single power plane for cores and IMC. Supports ALL socket Am2 and Am2+ processors, but will be limited to a Hyper Transport speed of 1ghz (1000mhz). May socket Am3 processors, but will be limited to a Hyper Transport speed of 1ghz (1000mhz) also. Socket Am2+ 940 contacts in a "Pin Grid Array." Stock bus of 200mhz. Hyper Transport 3 @ 2.6ghz (2600mhz) (Max speed). Split power planes: One for processing cores and one for the IMC. Supports ALL socket Am2 and Am2+ processors. May support Am3 socket processors with a BIOS update, but cannot run DDR3. Socket Am3 941 contacts in a "Pin Grid Array." Stock bus of 200mhz. Hyper Transport 3.x @ 3.2ghz (3200mhz) (Max speed). Split power planes: One for processing core and one for the IMC. Supports ALL socket Am3 processors. Will run DDR3. DDR2 is questionable, but not confirmed to run with a Socket Am3 Processor in an Am3 socket motherboard. Processors Socket Am2 940 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939, 940 or Am3 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 alone. Hyper Transport speeds up to 1ghz (1000mhz). Socket Am2+ 940 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939, 940 or Am3 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 alone. Hyper Transport speeds up to 2.6ghz (2600mhz). Note: Am2 and Am2+ processors are NOT forward compatible with any socket Am3 mother boards. Socket Am3 938 pins on the processor. Not compatible with: 754, 939 or 940 socket mother boards. Supports DDR2 and DDR3. Hyper Transport speeds up to 3.2ghz (3200mhz). Core Unlocking. This section is not really finished, nor will it ever be, but I have a link from Psykoikonov having to do with core unlocking on the 720-705e's and 550-545's. Link to ES forum. On another note, the 810's have been noted to unlock the 2mb's of L3 cache that are still on die. I have a linky to this but I know nothing else. I believe the method was the same as unlocking cores, but I have also heard there was nothing required to unlock the cache. Guide made with the help of Archer0915* and Psykoikonov. Feel free to tell me if you want anything added or edited.* __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now! Last edited by ChanceCoats123; 07-02-10 at 11:17 PM.

08-06-09, 12:02 AM	#2
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08-06-09, 12:04 AM	#3
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Thank you much! Anyone, feel free to correct something I put or mention something you think should be added! __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-06-09, 08:43 PM	#4
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Bump for core unlocking section addition. Slight revision from Archer0915 as well (grammar). __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-06-09, 09:06 PM	#5
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08-06-09, 10:12 PM	#7
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Yup yup yup! And the fact that Am3 boards only take DDR3 (to my knowledge) is another reason but I will edit to make it more clear . Edit: Edited it and by the way, thanks nzaneb! __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-07-09, 12:35 AM	#8
QuietIce ♫ ♪ ♫ OC*SETI's Senior ♫ ♪ ♫ AMD Cruncher Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO ... The City of Fountains	You might add in the BE component as well - that makes a big difference to a lot of people. Otherwise - *Good Job!!!* __________________ Everyone likes to BOINC! ......... *Upgrade those optimizers!!!* ..............................Heatware........................protest sign here .Newest additions to the farm -> ...........CentaurB, Phen9950, and Quadary Opteron 180 @ 2.8 GHz\|\|A8N32-SLI\|\|Corsair TwinX2048-3500LLPro\|\|ASUS 7900GTX\|\|Tt680W PurePower\|\|4x WD-SE16 Copper"T" with 3/4" tubing>MCP655#1>Storm(Opty165)>2-302 HC w/2x141CFM Delta's>MCP655#2>Storm(Opty180)>MCW60 The only thing I can presume, since I know I'm not crazy (certifiably at least), is that everybody else is until they prove otherwise! -howetechnical

08-07-09, 12:42 AM	#9
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Thanks for the input as well as the nice job! Popped them in for the chips. Just had to find the right way to do it! I just realized the vast amount of information that is stuffed into this chart! Edit: Also added the 810 cache unlocking to the "core unlocking" section. __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now! Last edited by ChanceCoats123; 08-07-09 at 12:49 AM.

08-07-09, 01:06 AM	#10
QuietIce ♫ ♪ ♫ OC*SETI's Senior ♫ ♪ ♫ AMD Cruncher Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO ... The City of Fountains	I might have kept the designation down to BE* (i.e., "955BE") with a footnote showing "Black Edition (unlocked multiplier)" or something like that - just to make the chart cleaner. But your way is good too ... __________________ Everyone likes to BOINC! ......... *Upgrade those optimizers!!!* ..............................Heatware........................protest sign here .Newest additions to the farm -> ...........CentaurB, Phen9950, and Quadary Opteron 180 @ 2.8 GHz\|\|A8N32-SLI\|\|Corsair TwinX2048-3500LLPro\|\|ASUS 7900GTX\|\|Tt680W PurePower\|\|4x WD-SE16 Copper"T" with 3/4" tubing>MCP655#1>Storm(Opty165)>2-302 HC w/2x141CFM Delta's>MCP655#2>Storm(Opty180)>MCW60 The only thing I can presume, since I know I'm not crazy (certifiably at least), is that everybody else is until they prove otherwise! -howetechnical

08-07-09, 01:40 PM	#11
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Hmmm. I agree. It looks a bit more cluttered and you have to read more to get to the speed of the processor. Will do! Edit: Used a color-coded super script. I think it looks good . __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-07-09, 01:43 PM	#12
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08-07-09, 01:46 PM	#13
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Thanks Dolk! Believe it or not, but that actually means a bit since you have done so much with PII's! Hahaha __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-07-09, 04:02 PM	#15
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Why thank you nzaneb! __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-07-09, 11:44 PM	#16
stevejr Member Join Date: Sep 2006	Good info...helps in clarifying a lot of confusion about what fits or what doesn't fit between AM2/AM2+ and the AM3 stuff. I was confused until QuietIce and Trents cleared it up for me , so I'm sure that this will help in the same way. __________________ Foxconn A7DA-S AM3 X2 250 Regor 3.0ghz 2x2Gig G.Skill DDR2 1066 Enermax 620w psu WD 80Gb sata hdd WD 160 Ide drive LG dvd/cd writer CoolerMaster 534 case http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=55991

08-07-09, 11:49 PM	#17
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Yupp. I figured I would just take all[or most of] the information having to do with the new cpu's and boards because we seriously get a "is my board compatible" thread every other day if not every day. But thanks for the compliments! __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-08-09, 10:46 AM	#18
xsuperbgx Join Date: Dec 2006	callisto is BE,not regor

08-08-09, 12:05 PM	#19
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Good call! Thanks for that. I edited it. __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-08-09, 11:29 PM	#20
stevejr Member Join Date: Sep 2006	I have a question: The AM3 board has 941 contacts...but the AM3 processor only has 938 pins...? __________________ Foxconn A7DA-S AM3 X2 250 Regor 3.0ghz 2x2Gig G.Skill DDR2 1066 Enermax 620w psu WD 80Gb sata hdd WD 160 Ide drive LG dvd/cd writer CoolerMaster 534 case http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=55991

08-08-09, 11:40 PM	#21
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Yupp. Amd will be filling those the pins in the future. There is an article about Am3 that Tom'sHardware did and they broke off two pins from a Phenom II 940 so it would fit in an Am3 board and it wouldn't run in an Am3, but ran in an Am2+ which means Amd did something other than removing two cpu pins. __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-09-09, 12:25 AM	#22
stevejr Member Join Date: Sep 2006	Ah...I was wondering of it had something to do with future expansion...thanks. __________________ Foxconn A7DA-S AM3 X2 250 Regor 3.0ghz 2x2Gig G.Skill DDR2 1066 Enermax 620w psu WD 80Gb sata hdd WD 160 Ide drive LG dvd/cd writer CoolerMaster 534 case http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=55991

08-09-09, 12:36 AM	#23
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Yes sir it does! If you have any more questions feel free to ask! __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-09-09, 12:42 AM	#24
Roachgod Registered Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas	whats the difference if any on the 945's besides wattage? __________________ Home premium 64 Asus M3A78-CM Phenom 2 940 BE @3.4 2 x 2Gb OCZ Platinum 1066 Diamond 4870 1 Gb ddr5 @ 780gpu & 1025mem 2 x WD640 caviar black raid 0 200 Gb external backup HP DVD lightscribe drive X Box HD DVD add on drive 630 watt psu Antec Skeleton Case Asus 1201 HAB netbook w/XP Home

08-09-09, 12:46 AM	#25
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Just the wattage. I believe it was made as an Am3 quad for lower wattage sockets. As far as I know, both chips are locked upwards on the multiplier and everything else is the same. __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

08-09-09, 07:14 AM	#26
Ahgemon Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Inside my Haf 932 case, on a recliner in wife beaters eating cheesy poofs starring into the abyss	need some intel on memory limitation concerning the Regor L3-less 250 65w: Dualie at 3ghz 245 65w: Dualie at 2.9ghz 240 65w: Dualie at 2.8ghz looked up the AthlonII x2 250 on google, memory configurations are mentioned for DDR2 (pc6400) 800mhz, and DDR3 1066, not DDR2 pc8500 1066mhz like what I have. the asus board in my sig states in the manual that due to cpu limitation only 1 ddr2 pc8500 1066 memory dim per channel will work, there are 4 memory banks so I am assuming they mean 1 each, 2 of the 4 banks, so at this point, 4 Gigabytes of ddr2 pc 8500. thats just this one motherboard, my question is, does this line of chips from AMD support ddr2 pc 8500 1066 ram, or will it automatically adjust down to 800mhz? here is a link for technical specifications http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...omparison.aspx anyone have a athlon2 x2 250 set up with some pc8500 and some proven results? if not I will soon find out with the parts I have.

08-09-09, 08:55 AM	#27
QuietIce ♫ ♪ ♫ OC*SETI's Senior ♫ ♪ ♫ AMD Cruncher Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO ... The City of Fountains	All the Phenom II AM2+ CPUs were listed like that. There is sometimes an issue with 1066 RAM but not always. AMD and the board manufacturers put that up there to cover their butt in case the CPU/board combination triggers a problem. IMO, that notation should NOT be included in the list since it doesn't always hold true. However, I think it's good you brought the subject up so it's in the thread ... __________________ Everyone likes to BOINC! ......... *Upgrade those optimizers!!!* ..............................Heatware........................protest sign here .Newest additions to the farm -> ...........CentaurB, Phen9950, and Quadary Opteron 180 @ 2.8 GHz\|\|A8N32-SLI\|\|Corsair TwinX2048-3500LLPro\|\|ASUS 7900GTX\|\|Tt680W PurePower\|\|4x WD-SE16 Copper"T" with 3/4" tubing>MCP655#1>Storm(Opty165)>2-302 HC w/2x141CFM Delta's>MCP655#2>Storm(Opty180)>MCW60 The only thing I can presume, since I know I'm not crazy (certifiably at least), is that everybody else is until they prove otherwise! -howetechnical

08-09-09, 11:05 AM	#28
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Quiet basically said it all. I believe the ram issues were with the first gen. Am2+ Phenom II's such as the 940 and 920. The only other ram issues I have heard about are really motherboard issues having to do with DDR3 1600 working to its full specs. Also note, that since the 2xx series is Am3, you can run DDR3 in those (up to 1333mhz IIRC). __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

10-01-09, 08:02 PM	#29
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Updated to accommodate Propus cores. Sorry it was so late, been pretty busy with football and school. __________________ Amd PII 720 x3 @2.8Ghz \| Amd Athlon 64 3800+ TRUE Rev. B \| Stock GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (F8k) \| Asus A8V 2x2GB Mushkin 996744 \| 2x1GB Crucial DDR PC3200 Vertex 60gb (v1.6)+Seagate 1000 HDD \| Seagate 320 Kingwin Lazer 750 \| 600w Ultra supply Evga 9800gtx+ \| Nvidia Fx5200 Win 7 Ult. x64(Vertex)/ Ubuntu 10.04 x86(1TB Partition.) \| Win 7 Ult. x64 Phenom II and Athlon II Models and Socket Compatibilites. Do it! Do it now!

10-02-09, 04:42 AM	#30
QuietIce ♫ ♪ ♫ OC*SETI's Senior ♫ ♪ ♫ AMD Cruncher Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO ... The City of Fountains	"No L3" might be a better descriptor ... __________________ Everyone likes to BOINC! ......... *Upgrade those optimizers!!!* ..............................Heatware........................protest sign here .Newest additions to the farm -> ...........CentaurB, Phen9950, and Quadary Opteron 180 @ 2.8 GHz\|\|A8N32-SLI\|\|Corsair TwinX2048-3500LLPro\|\|ASUS 7900GTX\|\|Tt680W PurePower\|\|4x WD-SE16 Copper"T" with 3/4" tubing>MCP655#1>Storm(Opty165)>2-302 HC w/2x141CFM Delta's>MCP655#2>Storm(Opty180)>MCW60 The only thing I can presume, since I know I'm not crazy (certifiably at least), is that everybody else is until they prove otherwise! -howetechnical