Notices

Overclockers Forums > Hardware > Cooling
Cooling Discussion of fans, heatsinks, thermal pastes and putting it all together to keep your rig cool
Forum Jump

[O/C]Thermalright Announces Archon Heatsink

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe Search this Thread
 
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-20-10, 09:06 AM Thread Starter   #1
Overclockers.com

 
Overclockers.com's Avatar 

Join Date: Nov 1998

 
[O/C]Thermalright Announces Archon Heatsink


Thermalright Announces Archon Heatsink
by mdcomp


Quote:
Today, Thermalright announced the Archon heatsink, a new tower CPU cooler. The cooler is thinner than standard tower heatsinks, which Thermalright claims will eliminate compatibility issues with large memory heatspreaders. Boasting compatibility with Intel’s 1156 and 1366 sockets, the Archon also comes with the same AMD bracket system as the Venomous X. Also included is a 140mm TY-140 fan, but users can mount their own 120 or 140mm fan.
... Return to article to continue reading.

Discuss this article below. If you are interested in contributing to the front page (www.overclockers.com), please feel free to contact splat, mdcomp, or hokiealumnus. For the latest updates, follow Overclockers.com on Twitter (@Overclockerscom).

Last edited by mdcomp; 10-20-10 at 09:11 AM.
Overclockers.com is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 09:24 AM   #2
xoke

 
xoke's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2010

 
Is that the 140mm mounted in the pictures?! Holy cow that is a beast. I'm looking forward to this review, I have to get an air cooler for my 1366 someday.

__________________
Jiggy X58A-UD7 - Intel i7 920 D0 +4.9ghz - Kingston Hyper-X DDr3 2333 - 2x MSI GTX 480
Jiggy 890FXA-UD5 - AMD 1090t BE +6.0ghz - Mushkin Ridgeback DDr3 2000 - 2x Biostar HD 4890 R.I.P.
Antec TPQ 1200w - Sunbeam Tech Bench - WD Raptors - Koolance v2 - 2x K|ngp|n Tek-9 v6 Slim - ShamWow
xoke is offline Author Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 09:30 AM   #3
Nebulous
Seņor Senior Member

 
Nebulous's Avatar 

Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Empire State

10 Year Badge
 
I was about to say the same thing! I've been H20-ed for so long, I wouldn't know what air cooler to get for my setup, lol

__________________

<MEGA-O>
Gigabyte Z77X-UD4H /De-Lid i5 3570K@ 4.5Ghz
16GB GSKILL Sniper F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR
XSPC Rasa Black / RX360 / MCP-655 / MCRes
Corsair Force 3 SSD 120GB x2 Raid~0 / WD VelociRaptor 300GB
Diamond 7870PE52GDD Ghz Edition HD 7870+H80
Sony AD-7220S / Lite On LH-16A1S
SilverStone Zeus ZM1350 1350w
CM Cosmos 1000 / Win7 x64
** Under TITLE II, SECTION 210.340 it is legal to overclock **
Nebulous is offline Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 09:45 AM   #4
Bobnova
Innocent Senior Member



 
Bobnova's Avatar 

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Humboldt

 
See where the heatpipes are? That spreads the heat out over the entire aluminum plates, unlike the TRUE and Megahalems that only heat one end.

This thing should be a monster.

EDIT:
I would not assume the performance will be the same, personally.

__________________
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." -- Einstein (maybe)


How to check your PSU with a multimeter.

17bXw5t51rEBXGavJFMJsC8g7HQgThUGc7

Heatware.
Bobnova is offline Author Profile Benching Profile Folding Profile Heatware Profile Rosetta Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 10:11 AM   #5
muddocktor
Retired

 
muddocktor's Avatar 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: New Iberia, LA

10 Year Badge
 
I am earger to test this one out myself. I want to see if spreading the heatpipes out like that will bring better efficiency to high end air. From what I've seen the last 3-4 years, high end air has hit a bit of an efficiency impasse, with only slightly better performance being realized with designs newer than the original TRUE model. I have a feeling though that this one will be another winner. Especially since Thermalright has addressed the base finish quality control problems they were having until a year or 2 ago.
muddocktor is offline Author Profile Benching Profile Folding Profile SETI Profile Heatware Profile Rosetta Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 11:01 AM   #6
bing
Low Profile Senior

 
bing's Avatar 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Indonesia

 
Really interesting how they layout the pipes on making the contact with the fins, it looks this new model has different method than the conventional way that all pipes are having contact/soldered with all fins.

Watch at the gaps pointed by those red arrows, maybe those pipes are making contact at the upper fins, while the blue one is the one that is making contact with the bottom fins.

Really curious to see how this perform against current top dog like Silver Arrow or Noctua D14.

Name:  Archon.jpg
Views: 742
Size:  48.0 KB


Last edited by bing; 10-20-10 at 11:23 AM.
bing is offline Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 11:23 AM   #7
xoke

 
xoke's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2010

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bing View Post
Really interesting how they layout the pipes on making the contact with the fins, it looks this new model has different method than the conventional way that all pipes are having contact/soldered with all fins.

Watch at the gaps pointed by those red arrows, maybe those pipes are making contact at the upper fins, while the blue one is the one that is making contact with the bottom fin.

Really curious to see how this perform against current top dog like Silver Arrow or Noctua D14.

Attachment 87297
I didn't even notice that! Good eyes, that makes good sense too, spread the heat dissipation around. I don't know how many times the top of an air cooler is ice cold and the bottom is pretty warm. I cannot wait for the muddoc to get a hold of this thing!

__________________
Jiggy X58A-UD7 - Intel i7 920 D0 +4.9ghz - Kingston Hyper-X DDr3 2333 - 2x MSI GTX 480
Jiggy 890FXA-UD5 - AMD 1090t BE +6.0ghz - Mushkin Ridgeback DDr3 2000 - 2x Biostar HD 4890 R.I.P.
Antec TPQ 1200w - Sunbeam Tech Bench - WD Raptors - Koolance v2 - 2x K|ngp|n Tek-9 v6 Slim - ShamWow
xoke is offline Author Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 11:55 AM   #8
bing
Low Profile Senior

 
bing's Avatar 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Indonesia

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xokeman View Post
I didn't even notice that! Good eyes, that makes good sense too, spread the heat dissipation around. I don't know how many times the top of an air cooler is ice cold and the bottom is pretty warm. I cannot wait for the muddoc to get a hold of this thing!
Exactly, spreading the dissipation points, just guessing, maybe they've discovered the optimal dissipation number of pipes for each fin.

Another things to concern about, this HS is the tallest and widest (length) among other TR high end heatsinks, with this height, this might create problem with tight mid tower size case, especially with a thick side fan mounted.

Comparison :

Archon : Length 155mm x Width 53mm x Height 170mm

Venomous X : Length 127mm x Width 63mm x Height 160mm

Silver Arrow : Length 147mm x Width 123mm x Height 160mm


Name:  Archon%20size.jpg
Views: 635
Size:  105.8 KB

bing is offline Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 12:14 PM   #9
m0r7if3r
Member
Water Cooling Sticky Reading Enforcement Official

 
m0r7if3r's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Marietta, GA

 
Oh wow...I hadn't noticed it was taller, that could create issues for people.

__________________
If years were seasons, this December would be the December of our December.
-Abed #sixseasonsandamovie

Heat
m0r7if3r is offline Author Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 12:26 PM   #10
MattNo5ss
5up3r m0d3r4t0r
Overclockers.com Editor


 
MattNo5ss's Avatar 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: AL

 
I noticed this cooler on their website yesterday. A couple things I noticed:

- It's thinner than other tower coolers, like the Venomous X, by 10mm. Did Thermalright supply the volume numbers? They say you can use either 140 mm or 120 mm fans, but would a 120 mm cover all of the fins? If not, then the dissipation area of the Archon when using a 120 mm fan would be smaller.

- The spreading of heatpipes seems like a good idea. One issue I see that may arise is how high-performance fans with huge hubs work with the Archon. Personally, I like the majority of the heat being on the ends of the fins so my San Ace fans can dissapate all of it. The heat from the inner heatpipes may not get dissipated well unless using a fan with a small hub.

__________________
i7 3770K | ASUS Maximus V Gene | 4x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 | EVGA GTX780 SC ACX | 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 | SeaSonic SS-1000XP

My Overclockers.com Articles | HWBot Profile | Heatware (97-0-0)

Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station | PVC-Framed, MDF Station | Custom Cascade Cart/Case | Untitled TJ07 Build
MattNo5ss is offline Author Profile Benching Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 12:27 PM   #11
xoke

 
xoke's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2010

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m0r7if3r View Post
Oh wow...I hadn't noticed it was taller, that could create issues for people.
Until they get to about 5 feet tall ceiling fan clearance should not be an issue.

Just kidding...very true...of course the target market for this thing will not be SFF I'd imagine.

__________________
Jiggy X58A-UD7 - Intel i7 920 D0 +4.9ghz - Kingston Hyper-X DDr3 2333 - 2x MSI GTX 480
Jiggy 890FXA-UD5 - AMD 1090t BE +6.0ghz - Mushkin Ridgeback DDr3 2000 - 2x Biostar HD 4890 R.I.P.
Antec TPQ 1200w - Sunbeam Tech Bench - WD Raptors - Koolance v2 - 2x K|ngp|n Tek-9 v6 Slim - ShamWow
xoke is offline Author Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-20-10, 04:42 PM   #12
I.M.O.G.
Glorious Leader

 
I.M.O.G.'s Avatar 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Rootstown, OH

10 Year Badge
 
Bing and MattNo5ss, good points, and some of that is covered on their product page if you dig for it. From the support tab here:
http://www.thermalright.com/products...=172&cat_id=27

Quote:
FAQ 1
Question: Archon’s height seems a little different than other tower heatsinks, is there anything I should pay attention to when installing Archon inside a case?
Answer: Archon is 170mm in height, so please make sure you have a case that is more than 190mm in thickness, and there should be no side-panel fan, if there is, it must be removed before installing Archon.
FAQ 2
Question: Can I mount 2 fans on Archon?
Answer: Yes , you may mount a pair of fans, of your choice.
FAQ 3
Question: Archon looks thinner in size; will it have an effect on the cooling performance?
Answer: Although Archon is thin in thickness, the surface area is much larger than that of the Venomous X (1.6 times), and you can it pair it with a 140mm fan, so cooling performance is much improved.

__________________
The OC Forums Way
We are a team. We are a community. We are a fellowship made strong by mutual respect and shared dedication to the task of enriching all who come here.
The OC Forums Thank You Thread
Put your computer to work for our OC Forum Teams!
Try out our POST TEMPLATES, they save you time answering common questions!

I spend half my money on CPUs, GPUs, and Liquid Nitrogen. The other half I waste.
I.M.O.G. is offline Author Profile Benching Profile Folding Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-26-10, 07:21 PM   #13
jcw122

 
jcw122's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: USA

 
Heatpipes?! A revolutionary design!

__________________
"YES! I AM INVINCIBLE!!!"
Folding for Team 32!
Gaming Nick: new_Faction64 or CharminULTRA
CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2.0Ghz@2.2Ghz (was 2.4) Socket 754, VENICE
Memory-Crucial Ballistix 2x512MB @ 220mhz 2.5-2-2-5
Motherboard-No Idea My DFI Died
Video Card-MSI ATI 9800XT---412/390(was 424/395)---w00t! Flashed
PSU-Forton Blue Storm 500w

Currently Air Cooled w/ Scythe Ninja and AC VGA Silencer
R.I.P. Project: Humidity
Heatware
jcw122 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-26-10, 07:38 PM   #14
MattNo5ss
5up3r m0d3r4t0r
Overclockers.com Editor


 
MattNo5ss's Avatar 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: AL

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattNo5ss View Post
- The spreading of heatpipes seems like a good idea. One issue I see that may arise is how high-performance fans with huge hubs work with the Archon. Personally, I like the majority of the heat being on the ends of the fins so my San Ace fans can dissapate all of it. The heat from the inner heatpipes may not get dissipated well unless using a fan with a small hub.
Quote:
Originally Posted by I.M.O.G. View Post
Bing and MattNo5ss, good points, and some of that is covered on their product page if you dig for it. From the support tab here:
http://www.thermalright.com/products...=172&cat_id=27
I just realized that I could test my quoted point above with the Shaman, if interested.

__________________
i7 3770K | ASUS Maximus V Gene | 4x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 | EVGA GTX780 SC ACX | 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 | SeaSonic SS-1000XP

My Overclockers.com Articles | HWBot Profile | Heatware (97-0-0)

Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station | PVC-Framed, MDF Station | Custom Cascade Cart/Case | Untitled TJ07 Build
MattNo5ss is offline Author Profile Benching Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-29-10, 02:28 PM   #15
bing
Low Profile Senior

 
bing's Avatar 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Indonesia

 
Straight from our local TR distributor, they informed that Thermalright themself is claiming that this Archon cooling performance beats their own big sized twin towers Silver Arrow at the same fan configuration.

Judging from the information source and also the claim by comparing their own products, looks like TR is preparing to launch a new champion.






.

bing is offline Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-29-10, 02:56 PM   #16
Khemikal


 
Khemikal's Avatar 

Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Frankfort, KY

10 Year Badge
 
I had always wondered who the genius was that decided to line up the heat pipes. That design narrows down the pipes getting direct airflow to just the ones in the front. By spreading them out like this you get more pipes getting better, more direct, airflow.

__________________
i5-4670K @ stock, Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H, 2x AMD (Sapphire) 6870s, 16GBs G.Skill DDR3 1600, Samsung 840 120GB SSD, 2x 21.5" 1080p Dells

Heatware

Join the OCF Benching Team
Khemikal is offline Folding Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-29-10, 03:47 PM   #17
m0r7if3r
Member
Water Cooling Sticky Reading Enforcement Official

 
m0r7if3r's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Marietta, GA

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khemikal View Post
I had always wondered who the genius was that decided to line up the heat pipes. That design narrows down the pipes getting direct airflow to just the ones in the front. By spreading them out like this you get more pipes getting better, more direct, airflow.
the pipes are fairly high restriction though, and not much heat will be lost over so little a surface area...what's been done here is spread out the heatload in the total sink, so the top gets as much heat as the bottom because it has its own set of pipes...or that's what I could see from the pics.

__________________
If years were seasons, this December would be the December of our December.
-Abed #sixseasonsandamovie

Heat
m0r7if3r is offline Author Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 10-29-10, 03:56 PM   #18
Bobnova
Innocent Senior Member



 
Bobnova's Avatar 

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Humboldt

 
It's cheaper to make six identical shapes and press them on then it is to make six different shapes and press them on. Simple as that, i'd bet.

__________________
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." -- Einstein (maybe)


How to check your PSU with a multimeter.

17bXw5t51rEBXGavJFMJsC8g7HQgThUGc7

Heatware.
Bobnova is offline Author Profile Benching Profile Folding Profile Heatware Profile Rosetta Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-21-10, 12:07 PM   #19
bing
Low Profile Senior

 
bing's Avatar 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Indonesia

 
Found for sale at this online shop -> HERE $82.95 with the condition "Orderable, Stock Expected to Arrive Soon"






.

bing is offline Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-21-10, 02:37 PM   #20
MattNo5ss
5up3r m0d3r4t0r
Overclockers.com Editor


 
MattNo5ss's Avatar 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: AL

 
What!? This thing better be a beast at that price... or either it's being marked up for pre-orders...

__________________
i7 3770K | ASUS Maximus V Gene | 4x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 | EVGA GTX780 SC ACX | 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 | SeaSonic SS-1000XP

My Overclockers.com Articles | HWBot Profile | Heatware (97-0-0)

Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station | PVC-Framed, MDF Station | Custom Cascade Cart/Case | Untitled TJ07 Build
MattNo5ss is offline Author Profile Benching Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


Overclockers Forums > Hardware > Cooling
Cooling Discussion of fans, heatsinks, thermal pastes and putting it all together to keep your rig cool
Forum Jump

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Mobile Skin
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:01 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
You can add these icons by updating your profile information to include your Heatware ID, Benching Profile ID or your Folding/SETI profile ID. Edit your profile!
X

Welcome to Overclockers.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this the best community on the Internet since 1998!


(4 digit year)

Why Join Us?

  • Share experience
  • Max out your hardware
  • Best forum members anywhere
  • Customized forum experience

Already a member?