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Fair enough. Anybody try OC'ing one with a Noctua NH-D14?Why are we talking about apple & AMD in a review thread? It's probably time to steer this one back on topic folks.
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Fair enough. Anybody try OC'ing one with a Noctua NH-D14?Why are we talking about apple & AMD in a review thread? It's probably time to steer this one back on topic folks.
I have been looking for a reason to build an AMD system since 2007 and I still don't have one. Except for some fun with the Asus PC-DL dual Xeon setups, I built almost exclusively AMD single and dual Opterons setups from late 2003 until mid 2006. But pretty much nothing AMD since Core 2 came out, and BD is an even bigger disapointment than Barcelona was a few years back. Looking at the AMD Roadmap, there is no hope that I can see for them as a serious challenger to Intel.
Nice to see ya around, Dave.
I was pretty much in the same boat about that time frame too. Almost exclusively AMD during that time frame. But it seems like when they were owning Intel with socket 939, they sat on their butts and read the headlines instead of lighting a fire under the R&D section by giving them more funds to further develop the processors. And now instead of investing in R&D, they rather try to trash benchmarks (BAPCO) because they show how badly their newest and bestest product sucks.
I voted a 5 on the poll, but now I wish I had waited. The more I think about it, the more I am thinking I rated this processor line about 3 numbers too high. I sure am glad that I decided to just go ahead and buy a 2500k for the crunching farm last month instead of waiting for SnoozeDozer to come out.
Phoronix said:To much dismay, it doesn't look like AMD will be sending out any review/engineering samples of any Bulldozer processors to Phoronix. Evidently they don't care too much about Linux coverage for this less-than-stellar product launch. Scheiße! Perhaps now though it's fine to put out the AMD Trinity APU benchmarks for this next-generation Fusion hardware that's launching in 2012 and is already running Ubuntu Linux.
Honestly I'm not disappointed in BD, I did not expect it to beat SB at all so my expectations were not set as high as most of the people.
I was annoyed that their "BD ready" boards were not ready to run the chips.
I'm more disappointed in AMD as a company from what I've read how they have sacrificed technology and resources and put more focus on bloated marketing and the way they trying to discredit BAPCo and Sysmark after their chip performance fell by the wayside.
Then lastly I am shocked that their launch was done so poorly with the lack of CPU's at the retailers, all just seemed so poorly and haphazardly done.
I think there is a place for BD in the market at the right price point (not $280 ), people should realize that BD is not going to beat current Intel technology clock for clock unless AMD step up their leadership and put the focus and energy back where it belongs...technology and resources, whatever they do in their GPU wing should be transposed to the CPU design section.
Hopefully AMD can learn from the BD launch and get their strategy aligned with what their customers expect from them.
I don't understand how AMD claim that the current OS is not optimized for a newer processor?
There lack of supply at launch surely leaves much to be desired!
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Im disliking AMD as a company now; just the tactics and marketing they employ lately just rubs me the wrong way.
Intel isn't making me like Intel, AMD is making me like Intel. go figure.
I'll always recommend my company buy intel servers now.
Every marketing department pumps their product claims. AMD is no more guilty than Intel, except Intel products have the R&D support that they've actually been able to deliver better on many claims recently.
One thing I haven't heard in a while is "Bulldozer is really meant for servers though!"
Am I off my rocker in thinking that these will be terrible for servers due to the heat and power consumption? Was the whole server argument just another flavor of "wait for Windows 8, then Bulldozer won't stink?"