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Old 04-23-12, 12:21 PM Thread Starter   #1
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project 8101 => bigadv


Finally, SF pulled the trigger.
2xQuad xeon@2.4ghz can't make 2.4 days RQB deadline.
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We have moved project 8101 to bigadv release
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=21358

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Old 04-23-12, 12:40 PM   #2
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It is hard to see a fav folder no longer able to work like it used to for FAH, for sure. I see the "cherry pickers" are hard at work to avoid that particular work unit, already.

Points are like the beach ball around the pool - they're fun, but they should never be thought of as the main attraction in the back yard. If there are high ppd work projects, doesn't it figure that there would be low ppd work projects, as well? Seems like it would be common sense, doesn't it?

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Old 04-23-12, 01:06 PM Thread Starter   #3
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I see the "cherry pickers" are hard at work to avoid that particular work unit, already.
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Yup, I'm going to change to A3.

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Old 04-23-12, 03:36 PM   #4
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It is hard to see a fav folder no longer able to work like it used to for FAH, for sure. I see the "cherry pickers" are hard at work to avoid that particular work unit, already.

Points are like the beach ball around the pool - they're fun, but they should never be thought of as the main attraction in the back yard. If there are high ppd work projects, doesn't it figure that there would be low ppd work projects, as well? Seems like it would be common sense, doesn't it?

They make 'em, we fold 'em. It's such a simple relationship to understand.
Common sense isn't too common any more. Just a heads up, if you happen to be one of those peeps that has the OC BIOS on your 4P rig to squeeze out that extra 12.5%, you may find temps higher and problems running the OC with these units. Not that the reward is not high enough already, or anything like that.

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Glad I never got the guts to go OC on mine... figured staying the course was a better option for me. Thanks for the heads up though Mac... I'll keep my eye open and check the temps when one of these comes my way.

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Old 04-24-12, 02:11 AM   #6
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I'm folding my second 8101 wu, and the watt meter is unchanged from the other projects, on Tanker. (which has the 6272 cpu).

It is substantially fewer ppd, but c'est la vie, I'm not the least worried about it.
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Old 04-24-12, 07:20 PM   #7
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the OC BIOS on your 4P rig to squeeze out that extra 12.5%, you may find temps higher and problems running the OC
1. 12.5% has become 'old school' ("Classic OC BIOS"); new BIOS, 4P users are getting quite a bit higher (not me...yet)
2. on 8101, users reporting 2-4C higher CPU core temps; 2C higher than 690X with my 4P, running Hyper 212+ coolers
3. some 2P G34 and SRX users already reporting their systems are unable to meet preferred deadlines

(probably already reported here - haven't read everything yet)

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This thread is an eye-opener for me, I was contemplating a 2P build, and still may very likely go ahead with it simply because I want a more powerful rig. Folding performance would still be important, but not 'everything'.

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Old 04-24-12, 10:17 PM   #9
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Tanker is currently finishing these 8101's with 71% less than the deadline time. Sounds good, but that's down from 91% with all the other projects in bigadv.

This is with 4 x 6272 and stock clocks.
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Well... I was Folding one of these. Then my HD decided to take a dive... gonna have to swap it out and reinstall tonight. Frame times were in the 14:30 range on my 4 x 6172 (stock clocks w/thekraken).

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Glad I never got the guts to go OC on mine... figured staying the course was a better option for me. Thanks for the heads up though Mac... I'll keep my eye open and check the temps when one of these comes my way.
Hi again all! man... summer time, gotta love it... any who. Yeah, I am not going to OC mine either, as I may unfortunately sell "the Thing" after the CC to fund a vacation with the family. This p8101 I was reading up on, when it was in beta, seems to be very similar to the p6903 in TPF and size... makes me wonder why the points are lower on it though? And I am glad I am not OC'ing her, as I have noticed my temps popped up with this W/U... it was a nice change in pace from the regular 6901/03 back and forth forever... but last few days it was 8101, 6900, 6901... I thought my rig was acting up for a moment!

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The points on p8101 are lower, because they are closer to right than the points on p6903 and p6904. PG actually used data from a variety of machines to help determine what they should be.

THe BA points are so huge because the WUs were benchmarked on an i5. THe WUs filled the cache completely, slowing them way down, and made about 20% more than regular smp WUs. However run on a 4P machine, without any cache constraint, the BA WUs make much more than regular smp work. Even though reduced from p690x, p8101 still makes 70% more ppd than regular smp according to the data I've seen. Let me know if that data isn't correct.
I hope this is one of the rare teams that thanks PG for the nice bonus provided by p690x, rather than whines incessantly about the loss of ppd from p8101. So far so good.

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No point complaints from my side of the house, folding is fun... but I am also thankful for ChasR! You good sir, are a wealth of knowledge!

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