What ssd?

Horrerblade · 04-23-12, 03:30 PM

So i have a question. (NO DUHHH) Any ways lol i am building a new comp and a ssd looks like some thing that i would like. Now what size ssd should i get. I don't have a lot of money but i do have some money. So should i go with 60,68,120,or 128 gb? And the OCZ petrol ssd are they any good? I can get on for like dirt cheap should i jump on it?

cw823 · 04-23-12, 03:45 PM

Depends what you do. If you're like me and just use your PC for internet, ms office, music, etc, and have data stored elsewhere (like a NAS), 60+Gb would be fine. If you're uncertain, I'd go with a 128Gb. Crucial and Intel as the de facto standard for reliability right now.

Horrerblade · 04-23-12, 04:37 PM

Yea but the intel/crucial are expensive do you have any other suggestions.

cw823 · 04-23-12, 08:28 PM

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Yea but the intel/crucial are expensive do you have any other suggestions.

If you're willing to wait a week or two, deals on the Crucial M4 pop up for around $1/Gb. That said, I've had good luck with the Agility 3, but if I had to recommend something that I was certain you wouldn't have problems with, it'd be M4 or Intel. And I've used several M4s in client builds

Horrerblade · 04-23-12, 08:56 PM

Okay so i will wait but do you have an idea of the exact time and why?

ajrettke · 04-23-12, 10:47 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=1&name=120GB

There's a mushkin callisto deluxe for 115 (based on the original sandforce) and then a chronos for 119 (which is sandforce 2, but uses asynchronous NAND which is slower....same drive as the agility 3). The sandforce 2 controller has had some reliability issues but they seem to be fixed.

Although I did have an agility 3 that didn't work in one of my laptops (so I had to RMA it, then I went and bought a crucial m4). I've owned a callisto deluxe for almost 2 years and its been rock solid.

I'd say get the callisto deluxe since its reliable and rock solid. Realistically you'll never notice a difference between the two as well.

cw823 · 04-23-12, 10:55 PM

Looks like the callisto has a "drive failed in xx months" club. Any Mushkin I've looked at on the egg report quite a few DOA or died in xx months.

someinterwebguy · 04-23-12, 11:40 PM

I would recommend the Crucial M4's. They have a good balance of speed and reliability. I see them on sale at places like Newegg and Amazon from time to time.

Cowamundo · 04-24-12, 04:03 AM

Depends on what you do with your PC.

I mostly play games with mine and i can tell you that a +/-60-70GB drive will be to small then.

I'm also looking for a new drive and going for SSD as well.... thinking about the OCZ Vertex 4 128GB for around 150,- € / 195,- USD.

Bluefalcon13 · 04-24-12, 06:08 AM

Everyone has thus far neglected the Samsung drives so far...

From my research, Samsung drives are in the same reliability class as Intel/crucial, and so far, I can agree with that. Well made products from what I have seen. I have both a 470 128gb (sata2) and an 830 256gb (sata 3). Both have performed flawlessly. There seems to be sales on the egg for those around the same times as the crucial drives so go with what you can afford with the storage space you need :-)

johan851 · 04-24-12, 10:49 AM

^ I agree. Samsung's last couple of offerings (the 470 and 830 you mentioned) are great drives.

You might also try to snag a deal on a Plextor M3. I saw the 128GB for $150 the other day. It's got a five-year warranty and it's based on the same controller as the Crucial M4, but with better (much better) firmware, making it faster than a Sandforce.

ChinStrap · 04-24-12, 12:06 PM

I think we need an SSD sticky.

Horrerblade · 04-24-12, 12:12 PM

lol that would help.

EarthDog · 04-24-12, 12:14 PM

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I think we need an SSD sticky.

+1

The search function at this site also works. This question has been asked A LOT even recently.

WarriorII · 04-24-12, 12:24 PM

Found out the version of windows makes a difference on what SSD you should look at too.

A Windows 7 install can take up to approximately 30 GB of space. and you want to keep at least 20% free.

So a 45 GB for the OS and then data stored else where maybe.

That is MY .02 worth.

I also tried to install Ubuntu on an SSD last night, no luck with that but I'm still working on it.

WII

EarthDog · 04-24-12, 12:30 PM

I wouldnt worry too much about keeping free space on modern drives...(and 20% seems REALLY high!). Some drives are already overprovisioned so there is clean space set aside for TRIM/GC and bad cells.

Not to mention, you can trim your installs quite easily. My W7 pro install is around 6GB total. Shrank my PF to 2GB, I dont use System restore or hibernation, etc...

cw823 · 04-24-12, 12:42 PM

Yeah 7ult with pagefile/hibernation disabled and some other tweaks can be around 10-12Gb

Horrerblade · 04-24-12, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

+1

The search function at this site also works. This question has been asked A LOT even recently.

Yea but some thing like that psu sticky would be nice some thing for drives that is updated cuz new drives come out everyday.

Horrerblade · 04-30-12, 08:41 AM

http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0384643 what do you all think about this ssd?

LhzTyphoon · 04-30-12, 09:47 AM

Go with the vertex 4 128gb

04-23-12, 03:30 PM	Thread Starter #1
Horrerblade Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richardson, Texas	What ssd? So i have a question. (NO DUHHH) Any ways lol i am building a new comp and a ssd looks like some thing that i would like. Now what size ssd should i get. I don't have a lot of money but i do have some money. So should i go with 60,68,120,or 128 gb? And the OCZ petrol ssd are they any good? I can get on for like dirt cheap should i jump on it? __________________ Cpu: i5-3570k 4.4 @ 1.36 Mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Ram: 8GB 1600 mhz G. Skill ram GPU: MSI Twin Frozer 7950 HDD: 2 Raid 0X320 gb 7200rpm 1X2tb 5900rpm SSD: 128gb Crucial M4 Dvd: Blue Ray Super Drive Case: Corsair 300r HSF: Hyper 212+ (P/P) PSU: OCZ ZT 650 Watt psu Monitors: 23" LG IPS 1080p 20.6" LG LCD 1680X1050 A relationship with a moderator is no different than one with a woman. If you start doing stuff and treating them nice, they develop expectations. It's all down hill from there.-I.M.O.G Food for thought. If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score.-I.M.O.G
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cw823 Honeybadger Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Earth	Depends what you do. If you're like me and just use your PC for internet, ms office, music, etc, and have data stored elsewhere (like a NAS), 60+Gb would be fine. If you're uncertain, I'd go with a 128Gb. Crucial and Intel as the de facto standard for reliability right now. __________________ As of 9/2012 I am semi-inactive honeybadger moderator smacks the **** out of people that cause issues in the classified section Heatware: cw823 Paypal: paypal @ cw823 dot com Adak - My spreader bar was shaped using a pair of vise grips, a hammer, and the tow receiver on my pick up Support your forum: http://www.newegg.com/
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Horrerblade Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richardson, Texas	Yea but the intel/crucial are expensive do you have any other suggestions. __________________ Cpu: i5-3570k 4.4 @ 1.36 Mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Ram: 8GB 1600 mhz G. Skill ram GPU: MSI Twin Frozer 7950 HDD: 2 Raid 0X320 gb 7200rpm 1X2tb 5900rpm SSD: 128gb Crucial M4 Dvd: Blue Ray Super Drive Case: Corsair 300r HSF: Hyper 212+ (P/P) PSU: OCZ ZT 650 Watt psu Monitors: 23" LG IPS 1080p 20.6" LG LCD 1680X1050 A relationship with a moderator is no different than one with a woman. If you start doing stuff and treating them nice, they develop expectations. It's all down hill from there.-I.M.O.G Food for thought. If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score.-I.M.O.G
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04-23-12, 08:56 PM	Thread Starter #5
Horrerblade Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richardson, Texas	Okay so i will wait but do you have an idea of the exact time and why? __________________ Cpu: i5-3570k 4.4 @ 1.36 Mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Ram: 8GB 1600 mhz G. Skill ram GPU: MSI Twin Frozer 7950 HDD: 2 Raid 0X320 gb 7200rpm 1X2tb 5900rpm SSD: 128gb Crucial M4 Dvd: Blue Ray Super Drive Case: Corsair 300r HSF: Hyper 212+ (P/P) PSU: OCZ ZT 650 Watt psu Monitors: 23" LG IPS 1080p 20.6" LG LCD 1680X1050 A relationship with a moderator is no different than one with a woman. If you start doing stuff and treating them nice, they develop expectations. It's all down hill from there.-I.M.O.G Food for thought. If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score.-I.M.O.G
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04-23-12, 10:47 PM	#6
ajrettke Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=1&name=120GB There's a mushkin callisto deluxe for 115 (based on the original sandforce) and then a chronos for 119 (which is sandforce 2, but uses asynchronous NAND which is slower....same drive as the agility 3). The sandforce 2 controller has had some reliability issues but they seem to be fixed. Although I did have an agility 3 that didn't work in one of my laptops (so I had to RMA it, then I went and bought a crucial m4). I've owned a callisto deluxe for almost 2 years and its been rock solid. I'd say get the callisto deluxe since its reliable and rock solid. Realistically you'll never notice a difference between the two as well. __________________ Q6600@390x9 (3.5 and 1.400v) WC'd MSI P35 Neo2-FR 2x2 gb of DDR2 800 2 x Vertex 2 SSD's RAID 0 Sennheiser HDR-120's 2405FPW+2x2001FP "Computer games don’t affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we’d all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitve electonic dance music..." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989 "Is it worth overclocking? That's like asking if sex is enjoyable!" -cw823
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04-23-12, 10:55 PM	#7
cw823 Honeybadger Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Earth	Looks like the callisto has a "drive failed in xx months" club. Any Mushkin I've looked at on the egg report quite a few DOA or died in xx months. __________________ As of 9/2012 I am semi-inactive honeybadger moderator smacks the **** out of people that cause issues in the classified section Heatware: cw823 Paypal: paypal @ cw823 dot com Adak - My spreader bar was shaped using a pair of vise grips, a hammer, and the tow receiver on my pick up Support your forum: http://www.newegg.com/
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Cowamundo Registered Join Date: Apr 2012	Depends on what you do with your PC. I mostly play games with mine and i can tell you that a +/-60-70GB drive will be to small then. I'm also looking for a new drive and going for SSD as well.... thinking about the OCZ Vertex 4 128GB for around 150,- € / 195,- USD.
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04-24-12, 06:08 AM	#10
Bluefalcon13 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX	Everyone has thus far neglected the Samsung drives so far... From my research, Samsung drives are in the same reliability class as Intel/crucial, and so far, I can agree with that. Well made products from what I have seen. I have both a 470 128gb (sata2) and an 830 256gb (sata 3). Both have performed flawlessly. There seems to be sales on the egg for those around the same times as the crucial drives so go with what you can afford with the storage space you need :-) __________________ AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE @ 3.8ghz Corsair H80 cooler Asus M5A97 Vanilla 2x4gig G.Skill Sniper Series DDR3-1866 @ DDR3-1600 eVGA GTX670 2gb Samsung 830 256gb SataIII 1 80G SATA3.0 HD (Random Data) Antec Three Hundred Case Antec TruePower New 750W Power Supply Heatware
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johan851 Insatiably Malcontent Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle, WA	^ I agree. Samsung's last couple of offerings (the 470 and 830 you mentioned) are great drives. You might also try to snag a deal on a Plextor M3. I saw the 128GB for $150 the other day. It's got a five-year warranty and it's based on the same controller as the Crucial M4, but with better (much better) firmware, making it faster than a Sandforce. __________________ ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 \| 2500K @ 4.6GHz \| 2x4GB Samsung DDR3 \| GTX460 768mb 120GB Crucial M4 \| 2x 2TB Samsung F4 \| Seasonic S12 600w AV-710 --> y2 DAC --> Custom M^3 --> Custom LM3875 ChipAmp --> Modula MTs Dual Dell 2007WFP \| Watercooled
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Horrerblade Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richardson, Texas	lol that would help. __________________ Cpu: i5-3570k 4.4 @ 1.36 Mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Ram: 8GB 1600 mhz G. Skill ram GPU: MSI Twin Frozer 7950 HDD: 2 Raid 0X320 gb 7200rpm 1X2tb 5900rpm SSD: 128gb Crucial M4 Dvd: Blue Ray Super Drive Case: Corsair 300r HSF: Hyper 212+ (P/P) PSU: OCZ ZT 650 Watt psu Monitors: 23" LG IPS 1080p 20.6" LG LCD 1680X1050 A relationship with a moderator is no different than one with a woman. If you start doing stuff and treating them nice, they develop expectations. It's all down hill from there.-I.M.O.G Food for thought. If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score.-I.M.O.G
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EarthDog Senior PITA Member Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stuck in Maryland...	I wouldnt worry too much about keeping free space on modern drives...(and 20% seems REALLY high!). Some drives are already overprovisioned so there is clean space set aside for TRIM/GC and bad cells. Not to mention, you can trim your installs quite easily. My W7 pro install is around 6GB total. Shrank my PF to 2GB, I dont use System restore or hibernation, etc... __________________ C2D/C2Q Overclocking Guide / i3/i5/i7 (s1366/1156) Overclocking Guide/Info / SandyBridge/ Ivybridge Overclocking Guide / AMD Overclocking Guide / Power Supply Guide SSD Reliability/Write Endurance / JOIN THE BENCHING TEAM! / Bulldozer Overclocking Guide / Forum Etiquette Want to see your writing featured on the overclockers.com Front Page? PM me, I can help! "We have more information and more ways of accessing it than ever, yet seem increasingly less inclined to do so."- Michael Wilbon
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cw823 Honeybadger Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Earth	Yeah 7ult with pagefile/hibernation disabled and some other tweaks can be around 10-12Gb __________________ As of 9/2012 I am semi-inactive honeybadger moderator smacks the **** out of people that cause issues in the classified section Heatware: cw823 Paypal: paypal @ cw823 dot com Adak - My spreader bar was shaped using a pair of vise grips, a hammer, and the tow receiver on my pick up Support your forum: http://www.newegg.com/
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04-30-12, 08:41 AM	Thread Starter #19
Horrerblade Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richardson, Texas	http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0384643 what do you all think about this ssd? __________________ Cpu: i5-3570k 4.4 @ 1.36 Mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Ram: 8GB 1600 mhz G. Skill ram GPU: MSI Twin Frozer 7950 HDD: 2 Raid 0X320 gb 7200rpm 1X2tb 5900rpm SSD: 128gb Crucial M4 Dvd: Blue Ray Super Drive Case: Corsair 300r HSF: Hyper 212+ (P/P) PSU: OCZ ZT 650 Watt psu Monitors: 23" LG IPS 1080p 20.6" LG LCD 1680X1050 A relationship with a moderator is no different than one with a woman. If you start doing stuff and treating them nice, they develop expectations. It's all down hill from there.-I.M.O.G Food for thought. If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score.-I.M.O.G
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04-30-12, 09:47 AM	#20
LhzTyphoon Registered Join Date: Mar 2012	Go with the vertex 4 128gb
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