Need advise on the i5-3570k

Laoag24 · 04-24-12, 02:14 AM

Greetings guys,

I need an advise from you guys who are more knowledgeable on the upcoming ivy bridge.

Which mobo+mem should I get for the upcoming ivy bridge? Please consider my budget $230 for mem+board.

I really don't know which should I get that would be best for my upcomin i5-3570k. G.skill - an 8cas 1600mhz 1.5v or an 9cas 2133mhz 1.65v or 9cas 1866mhz 1.5v.

I'll be thinking on what you guys suggest and might take it instead.

I will be doing a overclock, probably 4.2-4.6ghz.

It will be more likely that I'll go for the i5-3570k than the i7-3770k due to the lack of money ;p

Also, could you guys please approximate the % performance increase that I will gain from my old 1055T?

I appreciate your help guys.

Thanks

thekillerlama · 04-24-12, 02:43 AM

To be honest, now might be a good time to get something like a 2500k, it overclocks like a champ without the imense heat which you'll find in the ivy bridge cpus. Talking performance they are almost the same, with one exeption being the memory controller on the ivy which is quite extreme. Is this setup for gaming?

Laoag24 · 04-24-12, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by thekillerlama

To be honest, now might be a good time to get something like a 2500k, it overclocks like a champ without the imense heat which you'll find in the ivy bridge cpus. Talking performance they are almost the same, with one exeption being the memory controller on the ivy which is quite extreme. Is this setup for gaming?

Thanks for the advise man. But you see I just have to go with the latest

Yes, this setup would be mostly used for the latest pc games at extreme HD resolutions, fast video transcode, video editing, etc. Daily use basically

Also, you mentioned about the memory controller on the ivy bridge which bugs me, please do recommend me a memory+motherboard that would be best for my budget as mentioned above

Thinking of going with this motherboard because I seen Turn & Burn's post but what memory?

Any advise/comments are appreciated, thanks guys.

manu2b · 04-24-12, 05:20 AM

Regarding your question about perf increase, you can have a look at this comparison (3570K will be maybe 2/3% faster than the 2500k):
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=288

thekillerlama · 04-24-12, 05:42 AM

I agree, as far as heat goes it really depends on the overclock. If you aren't running too much voltage through the 3570K it wont be that hot, however there is a sudden shift when increasing the voltage where the slightest voltage increase will result in a massive increase in heat. This sudden "wall" might come at different voltages which vary from cpu to cpu but according to reviews you can expect a 4,5 ghz overclock from the cpu before you need different forms of cooling. (extreme cooling). At least this is true with the 3770K cpu, someone please prove me otherwise

Laoag24 · 04-24-12, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by manu2b

Regarding your question about perf increase, you can have a look at this comparison (3570K will be maybe 2/3% faster than the 2500k):
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=288

The i5-3570k probably only be 2 or 3% faster than the i5-2500k?

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Originally Posted by thekillerlama

I agree, as far as heat goes it really depends on the overclock. If you aren't running too much voltage through the 3570K it wont be that hot, however there is a sudden shift when increasing the voltage where the slightest voltage increase will result in a massive increase in heat. This sudden "wall" might come at different voltages which vary from cpu to cpu but according to reviews you can expect a 4,5 ghz overclock from the cpu before you need different forms of cooling. (extreme cooling). At least this is true with the 3770K cpu, someone please prove me otherwise

Do you think my NH-D14 would be sufficient enough to cool my i5-3570k @ 4.2-4.6ghz?

Guys, I'll probably go with this motherboard + this memory.

EarthDog · 04-24-12, 12:06 PM

NH-D14 will be fine for that CPU at those clocks.

No point in 2133Mhz ram unless you are overclocking/benchmarking. DDR3 1600 will be fine for 99% of people here.

Laoag24 · 04-24-12, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

NH-D14 will be fine for that CPU at those clocks.

No point in 2133Mhz ram unless you are overclocking/benchmarking. DDR3 1600 will be fine for 99% of people here.

Thanks for the advise but I'll probably go for the 2133mhz 9cas 1.65v to make me grin. Or no? should I go with a 1600mhz 8cas 1.5v for my setup?

I will do a mild overclock probably around 4.2-4.6ghz. Is there any overclock results with the i5-3570k yet @ stock volts? How many % increase from the previous i5-2500k? 2-3% really?

Thanks

PostalTwinkie · 04-24-12, 10:19 PM

You aren't going to notice a performance difference between the 1600mhz and the 2133mhz. Benchmarking will show a very small difference, obviously, but they don't translate to anything in actual usage.

Laoag24 · 04-24-12, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie

You aren't going to notice a performance difference between the 1600mhz and the 2133mhz. Benchmarking will show a very small difference, obviously, but they don't translate to anything in actual usage.

Agh,

I do know that. Like I said I just want to go with the 2133mhz just for the fun of it. What I am trying to say is what mem as stated above is designed best for my setup. Thanks though

SF101 · 04-25-12, 12:12 AM

seems like you have it all figured out already then.. why the need for advice?

Laoag24 · 04-25-12, 12:20 AM

I guess I'll just go with Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H with G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series then.

Is there any overclock results with the i5-3570k yet @ stock volts? How many % increase from the previous i5-2500k? Only 2-3%?

EarthDog · 04-25-12, 09:42 AM

Every chip will vary. Report back with your findings on how far yours goes.

The % increase is no different than the 3770k v 2600k.

Don Karnage · 04-25-12, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laoag24

I guess I'll just go with Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H with G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series then.

Is there any overclock results with the i5-3570k yet @ stock volts? How many % increase from the previous i5-2500k? Only 2-3%?

4.5Ghz is my limit on stock volts. 4.6Ghz needs 1.27v in the bios and it just keeps increasing from there.

Cowamundo · 04-25-12, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Karnage

4.5Ghz is my limit on stock volts. 4.6Ghz needs 1.27v in the bios and it just keeps increasing from there.

What kind of cooling do you use?

Don Karnage · 04-25-12, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowamundo

What kind of cooling do you use?

Venom X

hokiealumnus · 04-26-12, 08:59 AM

Your stock voltage is 1.26V? Seems awfully high considering our 3770K was 1.080V. I think that board is just setting a high default Vcore, or is auto-raising it on you while you overclock.

Don Karnage · 04-26-12, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hokiealumnus

Your stock voltage is 1.26V? Seems awfully high considering our 3770K was 1.080V. I think that board is just setting a high default Vcore, or is auto-raising it on you while you overclock.

I bought this board because I was willing to give biostar a shot and they have severely let me down. The board died on me lastnight so I ordered a Maximus V to replace it.

wingman99 · 04-26-12, 11:28 PM

Did it die while loading the CPU or just died while using it surfing?

Kanalplus · 04-27-12, 09:31 AM

Imho not much to gain taking 3570k over 2500k if it/s only 2-5% gain as stated above except heat.
From my PoV all i can see is u having extreme urge to waste money.

04-24-12, 02:14 AM	Thread Starter #1
Laoag24 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hawaii, Kauai	Need advise on the i5-3570k Greetings guys, I need an advise from you guys who are more knowledgeable on the upcoming ivy bridge. Which mobo+mem should I get for the upcoming ivy bridge? Please consider my budget $230 for mem+board. I really don't know which should I get that would be best for my upcomin i5-3570k. G.skill - an 8cas 1600mhz 1.5v or an 9cas 2133mhz 1.65v or 9cas 1866mhz 1.5v. I'll be thinking on what you guys suggest and might take it instead. I will be doing a overclock, probably 4.2-4.6ghz. It will be more likely that I'll go for the i5-3570k than the i7-3770k due to the lack of money ;p Also, could you guys please approximate the % performance increase that I will gain from my old 1055T? I appreciate your help guys. Thanks __________________ CPU: i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz 1.28v Cooler: NH-D14 Memory: G.skill Ripjaw X 2x4GB 2133mhz 1.65v 9cas Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77x-UD3H GPU: GTX 480 @ stock (Other one is on its way) Storage: WD 1TB SATA III PSU: Corsair tx 950W Case: Custom Black&Yellow Antec 900 Black Steel
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04-24-12, 02:43 AM	#2
thekillerlama Member Join Date: Jul 2010	To be honest, now might be a good time to get something like a 2500k, it overclocks like a champ without the imense heat which you'll find in the ivy bridge cpus. Talking performance they are almost the same, with one exeption being the memory controller on the ivy which is quite extreme. Is this setup for gaming?
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04-24-12, 05:20 AM	#4
manu2b Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brussels	Regarding your question about perf increase, you can have a look at this comparison (3570K will be maybe 2/3% faster than the 2500k): http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=288 __________________ MSI 990FXA-GD65 PhenomII x6 1075t 4.1GHz/1.52v Noctua NH-D14 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1840/Cl9 Sapphire 7970 Dual-x@1225(1.35v)/1800(1.6v) BeQuiet Pure Power 530W Crucial M4 256GB Samsung SyncMaster BX2450 24"
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04-24-12, 05:42 AM	#5
thekillerlama Member Join Date: Jul 2010	I agree, as far as heat goes it really depends on the overclock. If you aren't running too much voltage through the 3570K it wont be that hot, however there is a sudden shift when increasing the voltage where the slightest voltage increase will result in a massive increase in heat. This sudden "wall" might come at different voltages which vary from cpu to cpu but according to reviews you can expect a 4,5 ghz overclock from the cpu before you need different forms of cooling. (extreme cooling). At least this is true with the 3770K cpu, someone please prove me otherwise __________________ Asus Sabertooth, i5 2500K, , Corsair A70, Gtx 560Ti, Xfx 750W Black, Cooler master 690 II
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04-24-12, 12:06 PM	#7
EarthDog Senior PITA Member Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stuck in Maryland...	NH-D14 will be fine for that CPU at those clocks. No point in 2133Mhz ram unless you are overclocking/benchmarking. DDR3 1600 will be fine for 99% of people here. __________________ Should I R0 my SSD? / SandyBridge / Ivybridge Overclocking Guide / AMD Overclocking Guide / Power Supply Guide SSD Reliability/Write Endurance / JOIN THE BENCHING TEAM! / Bulldozer Overclocking Guide / Forum Etiquette Want to see your writing featured on the overclockers.com Front Page? PM me, I can help! "We have more information and more ways of accessing it than ever, yet seem increasingly less inclined to do so."- Michael Wilbon
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PostalTwinkie New Member Join Date: Apr 2012	You aren't going to notice a performance difference between the 1600mhz and the 2133mhz. Benchmarking will show a very small difference, obviously, but they don't translate to anything in actual usage.
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04-25-12, 12:12 AM	#11
SF101 The Printer Guru Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: canada alberta	seems like you have it all figured out already then.. why the need for advice? __________________ My 3 Current Rigs-Guest-Main-Work I7930@4.0ghz 3770K@ 4.8ghz 2500k @ 4.7ghz SF101 HW BOT Join the Bench Team!
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04-25-12, 12:20 AM	Thread Starter #12
Laoag24 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hawaii, Kauai	I guess I'll just go with Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H with G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series then. Is there any overclock results with the i5-3570k yet @ stock volts? How many % increase from the previous i5-2500k? Only 2-3%?
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04-25-12, 09:42 AM	#13
EarthDog Senior PITA Member Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stuck in Maryland...	Every chip will vary. Report back with your findings on how far yours goes. The % increase is no different than the 3770k v 2600k. __________________ Should I R0 my SSD? / SandyBridge / Ivybridge Overclocking Guide / AMD Overclocking Guide / Power Supply Guide SSD Reliability/Write Endurance / JOIN THE BENCHING TEAM! / Bulldozer Overclocking Guide / Forum Etiquette Want to see your writing featured on the overclockers.com Front Page? PM me, I can help! "We have more information and more ways of accessing it than ever, yet seem increasingly less inclined to do so."- Michael Wilbon Last edited by EarthDog; 04-25-12 at 09:48 AM.
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04-26-12, 08:59 AM	#17
hokiealumnus Water Cooled Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC	Your stock voltage is 1.26V? Seems awfully high considering our 3770K was 1.080V. I think that board is just setting a high default Vcore, or is auto-raising it on you while you overclock. __________________ Enjoy benchmarks? Join the benching team! \| New to water cooling? Read the Beginner's Guide to Water Cooling Your PC. xsuperbgx - "As a wise man once said: "Less talky. More clocky."" \| cyberfish - "When overclocked, it's undefined behavior." I.M.O.G. - "Vaseline on Ivy Bridge is a bad idea. But not so bad of an idea that it can't be fixed with a torpedo heater, a dishwasher, an oven, and a few hours. " \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ - Join Now! - My mITX Build
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04-26-12, 11:28 PM	#19
wingman99 Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Did it die while loading the CPU or just died while using it surfing? __________________ i5 2500K @5.0 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 G.SKILL RipjawsX X.M.P. 1600MHz EVGA SuperClocked GTX 570 SOLD Ivy bridge i5 3570k
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04-27-12, 09:31 AM	#20
Kanalplus New Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Imho not much to gain taking 3570k over 2500k if it/s only 2-5% gain as stated above except heat. From my PoV all i can see is u having extreme urge to waste money.
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