New video card required?

mjw21a · 05-03-12, 12:06 AM

I've just purchased a Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE on eBay and the general concensus is that the video card in my sig won't be sufficient to run Battlefield 3 at the almost Ultra (Everything ultra, but 2x MSAA & motion blur off) settings I'm currently on as 2560x1440 is harder on the card than 1920x1280.

What is the minimal AMD video card I can use to us BF3 on these settings, though possible with MSAA turned off?

rescuetoaster · 05-05-12, 12:31 PM

At the very least I would think you'd want a 2GB card - I would shoot for something like the 78X0 or the 79X0 series. The higher resolution you go (and holy crap that is high resolution), the greater amount of VRAM you will need.

txus.palacios · 05-05-12, 03:06 PM

Don't run Xfire, as rescuetoaster said, you need more VRAM as resolution increases. And that's no little resolution. Aim for some 78x. But VRAM as big as possible. Aim for 2GB at least.

mjw21a · 05-05-12, 09:57 PM

Damn, I think I'll just wait for the next gen of video cards and lower my detail settings to high in BF3. The current gen costs too much for the performance level required. I can't justify more than $250 on a card.

EDIT: Actually this card here is about $260 so within my price range and has 2GB RAM..... What do you reckon. It also appears that it may be marginally faster than my current card too.

Do you think it'll handle BF3 on Ultra at the res I want?

http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=89029

Twiggz · 05-05-12, 11:26 PM

The 7850 has 2gb VRAM, a "slightly" higher memory bandwidth, lower pixel fill rate, but higher texture fill rate. If I remember right Pixel fill rate deals with higher resolutions.

mjw21a · 05-06-12, 01:07 AM

^^^ What does that translate into? Will it handle BF3 better on high or better quality settings?

Twiggz · 05-06-12, 01:10 AM

Honestly besides getting more Vram, I don't think those two cards are that different. Should still help though, not sure it's worth paying for it though.

mjw21a · 05-06-12, 04:01 AM

Yeah I know..... I'm just wondering whether the additional memory will makes much of a difference In what settings I can run in BF3....

Badbonji · 05-06-12, 05:26 AM

I easily pass 1GB Vram at 1980x1200 - I reckon it would make a drastic difference at that resolution. I upgraded from a HD5970 2GB (2x1GB) to a GTX680 - overall their performance is in the same class (similar vantage score) but the difference was night and day for me in BF3, I would constantly get stutters with the HD5970 as it just didn't have the memory necessary. I had to run it on medium/high with the 5970 just to get stable FPS, now running on the ultra preset.

Also the HD7850 should have more overclocking potential than your current card. I think you should wait anyway and see if you are happy with your current card, if not you could see how much it would actually cost to upgrade - selling the HD6870 will surely net you a good fraction of the cost.

txus.palacios · 05-06-12, 05:35 AM

A 5970, like any other dual GPU solution, has only half the RAM as, let's say, usable RAM.

mjw21a · 05-06-12, 06:05 AM

My current 1GB 6870 will run 1980x1200 on ULTRA settings no worries at all however this was only possible when you have at least 8GB RAM. With my current 16GB running at about 2080mhz it runs perfectly. Seems to use the main system memory to make up for lack of VRAM.....

If I have to drop settings to HIGH to play that should be ok. ULTRA tends to only add detail which distracts you from the enemy anyway. Looks prettier but makes everyone more camouflaged because the surrounding have more detail.

mjw21a · 05-08-12, 07:26 AM

Ok, have the new screen. I've BF3 set at 2560x1440 on Ultra for most settings, though I've turned off most of the AA stuff. It's almost fast enough.

What would be my best option. Get a second 1GB HD6870 and Crossfire it ($199) or replace it with a 2GB HD7850 ($269). Would I see much of a difference either way?

Mjolnir · 05-08-12, 08:05 AM

I run the same resolution. It's around 80% more pixels than 1080p. So you'd effectively need that much more power to run it at the same settings at the same frame rate. (Perhaps not perfectly scaled like that.. But it can't be too far off).

Few hints; At this resolution; on a 27 inch screen, the pixel density is quite high. You don't need AA/MSAA/FXAA at all. Trust me lol.

The HD 7870 2GB would be the MINIMUM you'd want to upgrade to. But frankly to run BF3 at ultra at this res; you're looking at a HD 7950/70 honestly. If you can stand everything on High; you'd be sweet with a HD 7870 (which is very similar to GTX 580 performance). Oc's better and uses less power too.

But; xfiring is NOT the way to go. BF3 maxes out 1gb VRAM at 1080p. How do you think two cards with still 1GB vram will go at 2560x1440? =). Absolutely horrible lol.

I'd go a minimum 7870 2GB; but honestly you're looking at the big boys for this resolution.. I had HD 5850; changed to the 580 specifically for this monitor. (580 was the fastest single card out at the time). And the HD 5850 is right behind the 6870.. So.. ya. You'll need to make a little bigger jump than that my friend =(.

HOWEVERRRR. I'm talking about a heavy map. Or MP. Single player; you should be fine with 7870 or 7850.. The 7850 performs short of a 6970 by default; though once OC'd you'll find it'll beat out a 6970 and a GTX 570.. 7870 is like 1% behind a GTX 580; and has 500MB more VRAM. And OC's very well..

txus.palacios · 05-08-12, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mjolnir

I run the same resolution. It's around 80% more pixels than 1080p. So you'd effectively need that much more power to run it at the same settings at the same frame rate. (Perhaps not perfectly scaled like that.. But it can't be too far off).

Few hints; At this resolution; on a 27 inch screen, the pixel density is quite high. You don't need AA/MSAA/FXAA at all. Trust me lol.

The HD 7870 2GB would be the MINIMUM you'd want to upgrade to. But frankly to run BF3 at ultra at this res; you're looking at a HD 7950/70 honestly. If you can stand everything on High; you'd be sweet with a HD 7870 (which is very similar to GTX 580 performance). Oc's better and uses less power too.

But; xfiring is NOT the way to go. BF3 maxes out 1gb VRAM at 1080p. How do you think two cards with still 1GB vram will go at 2560x1440? =). Absolutely horrible lol.

I'd go a minimum 7870 2GB; but honestly you're looking at the big boys for this resolution.. I had HD 5850; changed to the 580 specifically for this monitor. (580 was the fastest single card out at the time). And the HD 5850 is right behind the 6870.. So.. ya. You'll need to make a little bigger jump than that my friend =(.

HOWEVERRRR. I'm talking about a heavy map. Or MP. Single player; you should be fine with 7870 or 7850.. The 7850 performs short of a 6970 by default; though once OC'd you'll find it'll beat out a 6970 and a GTX 570.. 7870 is like 1% behind a GTX 580; and has 500MB more VRAM. And OC's very well..

This.

mjw21a · 05-08-12, 05:00 PM

Hmmmm, I'm thinking I'll just have to drop screen res until 7950/70 level performance hits the $200-$300 mark. Just not willing to spend more than this. I'll drop my settings to high.

05-03-12, 12:06 AM	Thread Starter #1
mjw21a Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Brisbane	New video card required? I've just purchased a Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE on eBay and the general concensus is that the video card in my sig won't be sufficient to run Battlefield 3 at the almost Ultra (Everything ultra, but 2x MSAA & motion blur off) settings I'm currently on as 2560x1440 is harder on the card than 1920x1280. What is the minimal AMD video card I can use to us BF3 on these settings, though possible with MSAA turned off? __________________ CPU & HSF: AMD FX-8120 & Noctua NH-D14 Mobo: Asus M5A97-EVO RAM: 16GB (4Gx4) DDR3 2133 G.Skill RipjawZ F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL Storage: 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex II SSD, 1x 250GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1x 1.5TB Samsung Silencer Series HDD GFX: 1GB Gigabyte AMD HD6870 OC + Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE 27" IPS LED LCD Audio: Turtle Beach DSS 2 w/ Turtle Beach P11 Headset Case: Silverstone Temjin TJ04-E w/ Side Window PSU: 550W Antec EarthWatts Platinum My rig piccies & links "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right." H.L. MENCKEN
	QUOTE Thanks

05-05-12, 12:31 PM	#2
rescuetoaster Member Join Date: Jan 2012	At the very least I would think you'd want a 2GB card - I would shoot for something like the 78X0 or the 79X0 series. The higher resolution you go (and holy crap that is high resolution), the greater amount of VRAM you will need. __________________ CPU: Phenom II 960T (Unlocked to X6) @ 3.9 Ghz Motherboard: Gigabyte 970a-UD3 Videocard: HD 7850 Twin Frozr RAM: 16GB Ripjaws 1600 Storage 2 250GB WD 7200rpm in RAID 0, 1TB caviar green media drive Audio: X-FI xtrememusic Cooling: Zalmann 9700 on cpu, Rosewill Ranger loaded with fans OS Windows 7 64bit
	QUOTE Thanks

05-05-12, 03:06 PM	#3
txus.palacios Premium Member #18 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cádiz (Spain)	Don't run Xfire, as rescuetoaster said, you need more VRAM as resolution increases. And that's no little resolution. Aim for some 78x. But VRAM as big as possible. Aim for 2GB at least. __________________ Maximus V Gene \| i5-2500k 4.8GHz (ekHF) \| 16GiB \| GTX470 SLi @ 800MHz (ekFC) \| m4 128GB \| T50-RP \| Arch Linux + Windows 8 Pro \| gaming P67 Extreme4 B3 \| i3-2120T 35W 2.6GHz \| 32GiB \| ZFS - zRAID1 2TB \| VMware vSphere (ESXi) 5.1 \| server Samsung RC520 \| i5-2410M 2.3GHz \| 4GiB \| HD3000 + GT520m \| 320GB \| Arch Linux \| laptop [ more info about my systems... ] The only sound I want to hear out of my computer (unless I'm gaming or watching a movie) is the hum of my 6000 rpm fan pushing air through my heatsink. - Seebs If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score. - I.M.O.G. I didn't go water-cooling for an air-cooling Vcore!! - bluezero5 I'll rm -rf /yourface/* - thideras
	QUOTE Thanks

05-05-12, 09:57 PM	Thread Starter #4
mjw21a Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Brisbane	Damn, I think I'll just wait for the next gen of video cards and lower my detail settings to high in BF3. The current gen costs too much for the performance level required. I can't justify more than $250 on a card. EDIT: Actually this card here is about $260 so within my price range and has 2GB RAM..... What do you reckon. It also appears that it may be marginally faster than my current card too. Do you think it'll handle BF3 on Ultra at the res I want? http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=89029 __________________ CPU & HSF: AMD FX-8120 & Noctua NH-D14 Mobo: Asus M5A97-EVO RAM: 16GB (4Gx4) DDR3 2133 G.Skill RipjawZ F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL Storage: 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex II SSD, 1x 250GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1x 1.5TB Samsung Silencer Series HDD GFX: 1GB Gigabyte AMD HD6870 OC + Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE 27" IPS LED LCD Audio: Turtle Beach DSS 2 w/ Turtle Beach P11 Headset Case: Silverstone Temjin TJ04-E w/ Side Window PSU: 550W Antec EarthWatts Platinum My rig piccies & links "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right." H.L. MENCKEN
	QUOTE Thanks

05-05-12, 11:26 PM	#5
Twiggz Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Arkansas	The 7850 has 2gb VRAM, a "slightly" higher memory bandwidth, lower pixel fill rate, but higher texture fill rate. If I remember right Pixel fill rate deals with higher resolutions. __________________ Main: Q6600 @ 3200 1.456V \| GA-G31M-S2L \| A-Data DDR2800 4GB (2x2) \| PNY GTS 450 @ 925/2220/1850 1.087V \| Crucial M4 128GB SSD, WD 80GB SATAII, WD 250GB USB \| Vista HP x64 Backup: Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.8 1.350V \| Abit AN8 Fatal1ty \| Crucial DDR400 2GB (2x1) \| Sapphire x600 Pro \| WD 250GB SATAII \| Vista HP x64 Laptops: Toshiba Satellite A665-S5170 \| i3 380M \| Toshiba 4GB (2v2)\| Windows 7 HP x64 \| Dell Inspiron 1520 \| C2D T7300 Upgraded \| Crucial 2GB (2x1) Upgraded \| Windows XP x86
	QUOTE Thanks

New video card required?

Internet Services

Website Development

Tech Hardware

05-06-12, 01:07 AM	Thread Starter #6
mjw21a Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Brisbane	^^^ What does that translate into? Will it handle BF3 better on high or better quality settings? __________________ CPU & HSF: AMD FX-8120 & Noctua NH-D14 Mobo: Asus M5A97-EVO RAM: 16GB (4Gx4) DDR3 2133 G.Skill RipjawZ F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL Storage: 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex II SSD, 1x 250GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1x 1.5TB Samsung Silencer Series HDD GFX: 1GB Gigabyte AMD HD6870 OC + Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE 27" IPS LED LCD Audio: Turtle Beach DSS 2 w/ Turtle Beach P11 Headset Case: Silverstone Temjin TJ04-E w/ Side Window PSU: 550W Antec EarthWatts Platinum My rig piccies & links "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right." H.L. MENCKEN
	QUOTE Thanks

05-06-12, 01:10 AM	#7
Twiggz Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Arkansas	Honestly besides getting more Vram, I don't think those two cards are that different. Should still help though, not sure it's worth paying for it though. __________________ Main: Q6600 @ 3200 1.456V \| GA-G31M-S2L \| A-Data DDR2800 4GB (2x2) \| PNY GTS 450 @ 925/2220/1850 1.087V \| Crucial M4 128GB SSD, WD 80GB SATAII, WD 250GB USB \| Vista HP x64 Backup: Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.8 1.350V \| Abit AN8 Fatal1ty \| Crucial DDR400 2GB (2x1) \| Sapphire x600 Pro \| WD 250GB SATAII \| Vista HP x64 Laptops: Toshiba Satellite A665-S5170 \| i3 380M \| Toshiba 4GB (2v2)\| Windows 7 HP x64 \| Dell Inspiron 1520 \| C2D T7300 Upgraded \| Crucial 2GB (2x1) Upgraded \| Windows XP x86
	QUOTE Thanks

05-06-12, 04:01 AM	Thread Starter #8
mjw21a Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Brisbane	Yeah I know..... I'm just wondering whether the additional memory will makes much of a difference In what settings I can run in BF3.... __________________ CPU & HSF: AMD FX-8120 & Noctua NH-D14 Mobo: Asus M5A97-EVO RAM: 16GB (4Gx4) DDR3 2133 G.Skill RipjawZ F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL Storage: 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex II SSD, 1x 250GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1x 1.5TB Samsung Silencer Series HDD GFX: 1GB Gigabyte AMD HD6870 OC + Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE 27" IPS LED LCD Audio: Turtle Beach DSS 2 w/ Turtle Beach P11 Headset Case: Silverstone Temjin TJ04-E w/ Side Window PSU: 550W Antec EarthWatts Platinum My rig piccies & links "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right." H.L. MENCKEN
	QUOTE Thanks

05-06-12, 05:26 AM	#9
Badbonji Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Birmingham, UK	I easily pass 1GB Vram at 1980x1200 - I reckon it would make a drastic difference at that resolution. I upgraded from a HD5970 2GB (2x1GB) to a GTX680 - overall their performance is in the same class (similar vantage score) but the difference was night and day for me in BF3, I would constantly get stutters with the HD5970 as it just didn't have the memory necessary. I had to run it on medium/high with the 5970 just to get stable FPS, now running on the ultra preset. Also the HD7850 should have more overclocking potential than your current card. I think you should wait anyway and see if you are happy with your current card, if not you could see how much it would actually cost to upgrade - selling the HD6870 will surely net you a good fraction of the cost. __________________ i7 3770K 4.5GHz 1.2V \| Phanteks PH-TC14PE \| 16GB TeamGroup Elite 1600MHz \| GIGABYTE G1.Sniper M3 \| EVGA GTX680 SC 1254/1500MHz \| M4 256GB + 150GB Raptor \| Corsair HX+ 850W \| Antec 1200 i7 965 \| 8GB OCZ Gold 1600MHz \| GIGABYTE Extreme X58 \| HD5450 \| M4 64GB + 7TB \| OCZ 500W P9500 3.13GHz \| 4GB 1000MHz DDR2 \| Mobility HD4850 550/900MHz \| 500GB
	QUOTE Thanks

05-06-12, 05:35 AM	#10
txus.palacios Premium Member #18 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cádiz (Spain)	A 5970, like any other dual GPU solution, has only half the RAM as, let's say, usable RAM. __________________ Maximus V Gene \| i5-2500k 4.8GHz (ekHF) \| 16GiB \| GTX470 SLi @ 800MHz (ekFC) \| m4 128GB \| T50-RP \| Arch Linux + Windows 8 Pro \| gaming P67 Extreme4 B3 \| i3-2120T 35W 2.6GHz \| 32GiB \| ZFS - zRAID1 2TB \| VMware vSphere (ESXi) 5.1 \| server Samsung RC520 \| i5-2410M 2.3GHz \| 4GiB \| HD3000 + GT520m \| 320GB \| Arch Linux \| laptop [ more info about my systems... ] The only sound I want to hear out of my computer (unless I'm gaming or watching a movie) is the hum of my 6000 rpm fan pushing air through my heatsink. - Seebs If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score. - I.M.O.G. I didn't go water-cooling for an air-cooling Vcore!! - bluezero5 I'll rm -rf /yourface/* - thideras
	QUOTE Thanks

05-06-12, 06:05 AM	Thread Starter #11
mjw21a Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Brisbane	My current 1GB 6870 will run 1980x1200 on ULTRA settings no worries at all however this was only possible when you have at least 8GB RAM. With my current 16GB running at about 2080mhz it runs perfectly. Seems to use the main system memory to make up for lack of VRAM..... If I have to drop settings to HIGH to play that should be ok. ULTRA tends to only add detail which distracts you from the enemy anyway. Looks prettier but makes everyone more camouflaged because the surrounding have more detail. __________________ CPU & HSF: AMD FX-8120 & Noctua NH-D14 Mobo: Asus M5A97-EVO RAM: 16GB (4Gx4) DDR3 2133 G.Skill RipjawZ F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL Storage: 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex II SSD, 1x 250GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1x 1.5TB Samsung Silencer Series HDD GFX: 1GB Gigabyte AMD HD6870 OC + Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE 27" IPS LED LCD Audio: Turtle Beach DSS 2 w/ Turtle Beach P11 Headset Case: Silverstone Temjin TJ04-E w/ Side Window PSU: 550W Antec EarthWatts Platinum My rig piccies & links "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right." H.L. MENCKEN
	QUOTE Thanks

05-08-12, 07:26 AM	Thread Starter #12
mjw21a Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Brisbane	Ok, have the new screen. I've BF3 set at 2560x1440 on Ultra for most settings, though I've turned off most of the AA stuff. It's almost fast enough. What would be my best option. Get a second 1GB HD6870 and Crossfire it ($199) or replace it with a 2GB HD7850 ($269). Would I see much of a difference either way? __________________ CPU & HSF: AMD FX-8120 & Noctua NH-D14 Mobo: Asus M5A97-EVO RAM: 16GB (4Gx4) DDR3 2133 G.Skill RipjawZ F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL Storage: 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex II SSD, 1x 250GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1x 1.5TB Samsung Silencer Series HDD GFX: 1GB Gigabyte AMD HD6870 OC + Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE 27" IPS LED LCD Audio: Turtle Beach DSS 2 w/ Turtle Beach P11 Headset Case: Silverstone Temjin TJ04-E w/ Side Window PSU: 550W Antec EarthWatts Platinum My rig piccies & links "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right." H.L. MENCKEN
	QUOTE Thanks

05-08-12, 08:05 AM	#13
Mjolnir Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia	I run the same resolution. It's around 80% more pixels than 1080p. So you'd effectively need that much more power to run it at the same settings at the same frame rate. (Perhaps not perfectly scaled like that.. But it can't be too far off). Few hints; At this resolution; on a 27 inch screen, the pixel density is quite high. You don't need AA/MSAA/FXAA at all. Trust me lol. The HD 7870 2GB would be the MINIMUM you'd want to upgrade to. But frankly to run BF3 at ultra at this res; you're looking at a HD 7950/70 honestly. If you can stand everything on High; you'd be sweet with a HD 7870 (which is very similar to GTX 580 performance). Oc's better and uses less power too. But; xfiring is NOT the way to go. BF3 maxes out 1gb VRAM at 1080p. How do you think two cards with still 1GB vram will go at 2560x1440? =). Absolutely horrible lol. I'd go a minimum 7870 2GB; but honestly you're looking at the big boys for this resolution.. I had HD 5850; changed to the 580 specifically for this monitor. (580 was the fastest single card out at the time). And the HD 5850 is right behind the 6870.. So.. ya. You'll need to make a little bigger jump than that my friend =(. HOWEVERRRR. I'm talking about a heavy map. Or MP. Single player; you should be fine with 7870 or 7850.. The 7850 performs short of a 6970 by default; though once OC'd you'll find it'll beat out a 6970 and a GTX 570.. 7870 is like 1% behind a GTX 580; and has 500MB more VRAM. And OC's very well.. __________________ \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Motherboard - Asus Maximus Gene V Z77 CPU - i5 2500K @ 4.5ghz 1.3v /w Corsair H60 SE + GT AP-13 /w Scythe Kaze Master Fan Controller (GT AP-13/AP 181) RAM - 8GB G Skill Ripjaws 1600mhz. GPU - Asus GTX 670 DCUII Storage - Samsung 840 Pro 256GB + 2TB Seagate Cuda. Case - Silverstone TJ08-E PSU - Corsair HX650 OS - Windows 7 Ult 64 Peripherals - Leopold FC700R Graphite Brown MX + G500 Mouse Screen(s) - Dell U2711 Audio - Audioengine 5+ + Audioengine D1 + Wharfdale SW150 /w Shure SRH 840 Headphones
	QUOTE Thanks

05-08-12, 05:00 PM	Thread Starter #15
mjw21a Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Brisbane	Hmmmm, I'm thinking I'll just have to drop screen res until 7950/70 level performance hits the $200-$300 mark. Just not willing to spend more than this. I'll drop my settings to high. __________________ CPU & HSF: AMD FX-8120 & Noctua NH-D14 Mobo: Asus M5A97-EVO RAM: 16GB (4Gx4) DDR3 2133 G.Skill RipjawZ F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL Storage: 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex II SSD, 1x 250GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1x 1.5TB Samsung Silencer Series HDD GFX: 1GB Gigabyte AMD HD6870 OC + Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE 27" IPS LED LCD Audio: Turtle Beach DSS 2 w/ Turtle Beach P11 Headset Case: Silverstone Temjin TJ04-E w/ Side Window PSU: 550W Antec EarthWatts Platinum My rig piccies & links "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right." H.L. MENCKEN
	QUOTE Thanks

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search