Do I have space for push/pull? (pics)

niceguyjin · 05-08-12, 06:53 PM

Any ideas or advice for a firsty?

Thanks!

Nebulous · 05-08-12, 06:55 PM

Not sure what exactly you're asking. If you have enough space in what for push/pull?

niceguyjin · 05-08-12, 07:07 PM

Sorry about that. The attched(can you see them?) pics show the inside of my case with 2 fans below my rad, then another pic with another fan to demonstrate how far down the setup would be if I were to put 2 more fans on the rad for a push pull config. I am just wondering how much space I need to allow in front of the motherboard. The CPU sink would be clear (just)...

http://imgur.com/a/w9HqW

dtrunk · 05-08-12, 07:11 PM

what size radiator is that? I know they make a 120mm fan in 20mm thickness; multiply that by 2 and you have an extra spare 10mm of space. From the picture it looks like you have room, but that is close and then you won't be able to get at your memory.

Conumdrum · 05-08-12, 10:17 PM

Pics are broke. Tell us what rad, case fans etc. And fix the link, we'll try.

Lots of times you just have to try it, you gotta have some old 120mm fans laying around once you have your stuff, which we have no idea what you have.

Nebulous · 05-09-12, 11:13 AM

From the pics it looks like you have room. However, given the space and the tightness of the 2nd fan you're holding in the pic, your tubing might not clear it without a tight bend. This will result in pinching the tubing. You may need 45 degree angle fittings to bend away from the cpu block and get clearance without bending the tubing.

bluezero5 · 05-09-12, 11:30 AM

oh dear. tight room, you won't be using compression fittings there I think.. unless you use 2 45' extensions, so you can fit the tubes in lower.

meanwhile.. you CAN consider using 120mm x 12mm fans on one side of the push/pull if in the end it doesn't fit. some 12mm slim fans can still give 54 CFM, have it on the PULL side, and they will be able to help.

niceguyjin · 05-09-12, 04:01 PM

I've updated my sig with my rig. I guess I'll go down and get some 45s just in case.

One question on 45s (or 90s), if you don't but the rotary type, do they simply lock into place as the thread tightens on the block/rad/res/pump? So you don't have any choice on which direction they point, assuming you want to tighten them as much as possible by hand?

bluezero5 · 05-09-12, 08:24 PM

^^^^ yea. a little bit.

but since you never should truely COMPLETELY tighten the screws, there is some room to move around. But I do HATE it, when I feel it aint perfect.. so I always go for rotaries on 45'. but I might be too opinionated there, I know people that have rigs with no problems whatsoever without rotaries

m0r7if3r · 05-09-12, 09:12 PM

Since the O-Ring makes the seal, not the threading, you actually have a surprising amount of leeway with the angle at which your fittings are placed.

05-08-12, 06:53 PM	Thread Starter #1
niceguyjin Registered Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tokyo	Do I have space for push/pull? (pics) Any ideas or advice for a firsty? Thanks!
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05-08-12, 07:07 PM	Thread Starter #3
niceguyjin Registered Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tokyo	Sorry about that. The attched(can you see them?) pics show the inside of my case with 2 fans below my rad, then another pic with another fan to demonstrate how far down the setup would be if I were to put 2 more fans on the rad for a push pull config. I am just wondering how much space I need to allow in front of the motherboard. The CPU sink would be clear (just)... http://imgur.com/a/w9HqW
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05-08-12, 07:11 PM	#4
dtrunk Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kailua-Kona, HI	what size radiator is that? I know they make a 120mm fan in 20mm thickness; multiply that by 2 and you have an extra spare 10mm of space. From the picture it looks like you have room, but that is close and then you won't be able to get at your memory. __________________ CASE: HAF - X BUILD PICS PSU: Cooler Master 850W Silent CPU: Intel i5 3570k @ 4.6ghz 1.26v Custom Water Cooling Loop - XSPC RX360 w/ Swiftech Helix 120s - 2x Magicool 140.1 w/ Bgear Blaster 140s - EK Suprm HF CPU Block - XSPC RezTop on MCP350 pump -Tubed in Black n coiled in RED GPU: EVGA GTX680 HydroCopper @1293 GPU / 7160 Mem (Gaming Stable) MOBO: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 MEMORY: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3 @ 2133 9-11-10 1.5v HD: OCZ Agility3 SATAIII 120gb : 3TB 7200rpm SATAII 64mb cache
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Conumdrum Mutant Forrespondent Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas	Pics are broke. Tell us what rad, case fans etc. And fix the link, we'll try. Lots of times you just have to try it, you gotta have some old 120mm fans laying around once you have your stuff, which we have no idea what you have. __________________ All stock for now, no need for more, but it's gonna be soon methinks. Giga Xtreme 58 mobo i7 965 ES D0 step Corsair 1600 6 gig SLI GTX470 OC when I need it to 870 GPU/1725 mem EK HF nickle blue top CPU block (free from Eddie) Koolance 470 waterblocks One big loop, two 120x3 rads. Pa 120.3 and XSPC RX 120x3. Swiftech 35x pump with V2 restop. GT AP15 fans. Banchetto Tech Station 120 GB SSD, and a few other drives. 1000W UltraX3 PSU, 900 watt (1500VA UPS 27" ASUS VG 3D/Nvidia V2 3D glasses and 24" Acer H243H UPS is 1500 PFCLCD
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05-09-12, 11:13 AM	#6
Nebulous Señor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Empire State	From the pics it looks like you have room. However, given the space and the tightness of the 2nd fan you're holding in the pic, your tubing might not clear it without a tight bend. This will result in pinching the tubing. You may need 45 degree angle fittings to bend away from the cpu block and get clearance without bending the tubing. __________________ <MEGA-O> Gigabyte Z77X-UD4H / i5 3570K@ 4.5Ghz 16GB GSKILL Sniper F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR XSPC Rasa Black / RX360 / MCP-655 / MCRes OCZ Vertex III SSD 120GB / 2x Seagates 500GB~Raid-0 XFX Double D FX-787A-CDBC Radeon HD 7870 + H80 Sony AD-7220S / Lite On LH-16A1S SilverStone Zeus ZM1350 1350w CM Cosmos 1000 / Win7 Pro x64 Samsung LN40A550 40" HD TV ** Under TITLE II, SECTION 210.340 it is legal to overclock **
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05-09-12, 11:30 AM	#7
bluezero5 Winner, Rig-o'-the-Quarter Fourth Quarter 2012 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Tokyo	oh dear. tight room, you won't be using compression fittings there I think.. unless you use 2 45' extensions, so you can fit the tubes in lower. meanwhile.. you CAN consider using 120mm x 12mm fans on one side of the push/pull if in the end it doesn't fit. some 12mm slim fans can still give 54 CFM, have it on the PULL side, and they will be able to help. __________________ CM Storm Trooper Chassis - ASUS Rampage 4 Extreme Core i7 3930k 5.0Ghz (1.52Vcore) select1: GTX680 3x SLI @1280Mhz select2: HD7970 GE @ 1300Mhz 32Gb Trident 2400 DDR3 10-10-12-30 T1 Motto: I didn't go water-cooling for an air-cooling Vcore!! My Rig's build log ::: Fans 101: Going Scientific ::: Water Cooling FAQ
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05-09-12, 04:01 PM	Thread Starter #8
niceguyjin Registered Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tokyo	I've updated my sig with my rig. I guess I'll go down and get some 45s just in case. One question on 45s (or 90s), if you don't but the rotary type, do they simply lock into place as the thread tightens on the block/rad/res/pump? So you don't have any choice on which direction they point, assuming you want to tighten them as much as possible by hand? __________________ Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi PSU: Ikonik Vulcan 850 Mobo: ASRock P67 Extreme4 CPU: i5 2500k GPU: EVGA GTX 560ti + Gigabyte GTX 560ti SLI RAM: UMAX Cetus DDR3-8GB-1600OC SSD (RAID0): Crucial RealSSD 128 + Crucial M4 CT128 HDD: Samsung HD103SJ 1TB 7200 + Hitachi Deathstar BluRay: Pioneer 206DBK CPU Heatsink: EK Supreme HF Radiator: EK 240 XTX Pump: EK DCP 4.0 (Jingway DP1200)
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05-09-12, 08:24 PM	#9
bluezero5 Winner, Rig-o'-the-Quarter Fourth Quarter 2012 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Tokyo	^^^^ yea. a little bit. but since you never should truely COMPLETELY tighten the screws, there is some room to move around. But I do HATE it, when I feel it aint perfect.. so I always go for rotaries on 45'. but I might be too opinionated there, I know people that have rigs with no problems whatsoever without rotaries __________________ CM Storm Trooper Chassis - ASUS Rampage 4 Extreme Core i7 3930k 5.0Ghz (1.52Vcore) select1: GTX680 3x SLI @1280Mhz select2: HD7970 GE @ 1300Mhz 32Gb Trident 2400 DDR3 10-10-12-30 T1 Motto: I didn't go water-cooling for an air-cooling Vcore!! My Rig's build log ::: Fans 101: Going Scientific ::: Water Cooling FAQ
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05-09-12, 09:12 PM	#10
m0r7if3r Member Water Cooling Sticky Reading Enforcement Official Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Marietta, GA	Since the O-Ring makes the seal, not the threading, you actually have a surprising amount of leeway with the angle at which your fittings are placed. __________________ If years were seasons, this December would be the December of our December. -Abed #sixseasonsandamovie Heat
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