FRONTPAGE AMD Unveils New Trinity APUs for Notebooks - Desktops to Follow

No Neo, not that Trinity. This is AMD's new Accelerated Processing Unit (APU) architecture. They are unveiling the APUs for notebooks today with desktop APUs to come down the road; we're told sometime in June (can you say Computex?).

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Yerp, Anandtech have an article up relating to this now also. Now to wait for the standalone x86 parts

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/amd-trinity-review-a10-4600m-a-new-hope/1

this cool, cant wait to see the desktop parts.

This is just a cleanup of their existing Bulldozer chips, things will continue to improve. Appears that their design choices weren't so bad after all.

Well, VR-Zone isn't impressed. Anandtech isn't unimpressed but they are on the fence until we see actual products. Seems like a mixed bag of 'depends on what you're looking for'.

They wouldn't even talk about desktop channel part release yet, so we're probably looking at a fair bit of time before a Trinity system graces our site.

i wonder how well this chip will run WOT. this maybe my college laptop (with some gaming)

Looks sweet. Gotta love progress. The Trinity gpu seems remarkably strong compared to Intels offerings.

As I said regarding that "results" graph you posted:

Take the slide on the right with a MASSIVE grain of salt. The numbers are most likely accurate, but the graphs’ scales are about as misleading as you can get. Just note that the Better HD Video Quality in the upper left shows a 13% improvement, not 100% as the graph appears to show (come on AMD, you can do better than that; everyone does it, but you could break the cycle…somebody needs to). The other note is on the upper right graph, it says the i5 fails at 3DMark 11…that’s because Sandy Bridge doesn’t have the capability of running DX11; of course it fails. Ivy Bridge wouldn’t fail there and would make for a much more fair comparison. Ahh, marketing graphs…

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Trinity may do well, but those graphs are misleading at best.

All in all, I think I need to wait for reviews with product tested here on OCF..... Anandtech seemed to be less biased, though here we let the benches themselves do the talking.

From what I've read so far, many sites seem to like it. It covers the low to mid range performance bracket quite nicely, and thats where most notebooks in the market a purchased.

Here's a compilation of reviews though. I copied this from another thread over at overclock.net. Beats finding 'em all myself eh?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/amd-trinity-review-a10-4600m-a-new-hope

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/notebooks/2012/test-amd-a8-4500m-trinity/

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/15/amd-trinity-apu-unveiled/

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/laptops/1292020/amd-trinity-review-hands-on-with-a-prototype-laptop

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/129363-amd-detonates-trinity-behold-bulldozers-second-coming

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/2735/amd-a10-trinity-apu-reviewed

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...s/54260-amd-trinity-going-mobile-new-apu.html

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/39333-amd-a10-4600m-trinity-apu/

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Trinity-A104600M-Processor-Review/

http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/172332.htm

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Previews/amd_trinity/

http://www.nordichardware.se/barbar...-4500m-trinity-goer-entre-pa-mobil-front.html

http://notebook.pconline.com.cn/testing/contrast/1205/2781947.html

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Mobile/AMD-A10-4600M-Trinity-Mobile-Review-Trying-Cut-Ivy

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/processors/374644/amd-trinity-for-laptops

http://www.slashgear.com/amd-trinity-official-hands-on-14228174/

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/amd-a10-4600m-1080185/review

http://www.techwarelabs.com/amd-launches-new-trinity-apu/

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-4600m-trinity-piledriver,3202.html

http://www.trustedreviews.com/amd-trinity-a10-4600m_PC-Component_review

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-trinity-a10-4600m-apu-review-jumping-the-shark-/15830.html

For AMD's mobile units to out perform Intel's in aspects that really mater in the mobile sector, and at a lower TDP is hugely important and significant for AMD.

The main stream would like there Laptop to do occasional DX11 Gaming, stream HD movies smoothly and be solid for photo and video editing while having a good battery life and not costing a fortune.

PS: Did they say it has a gain of 29% x86 performance over Lllano, Lllano being based on the K10 architecture, basically what you see in my signature, if so that bodes extremely well for Piledriver.

I find that impossible to believe, i would be happy with ~10% over K10 if it also clocks higher.

I want to see some traditional benchmarks.

Thanks mjw21a, i did not go through all them completley, just the ones with decipherable benchmarks.

Predictably those turned out to be mainly Anandbench and Tomshardware.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-4600m-trinity-piledriver,3202.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/amd-trinity-review-a10-4600m-a-new-hope/1

The IPC performance on these mobile units is still not there with SB and IB, But it is way better than Llano and has closed some of the gap to SB / IB.

Intel's Quick synk still kills everything but the end result quality of that is not as good as standard encoding.

Battery life is not quite as good as the best Intel based machines in there tests but close enough and again much better than Llano.

On Gaming, predictably Intel's HD 3000 is no where compared to Trinity and the HD 4000 is also behind, but interestingly in a couple of benches Intel's i7-3720QM + HD4000 is a little ahead of the A10-4600M, which may well be down to the monster IPC in that chip making up for the HD4000 GPU short fall in some more CPU dependant games.

AMD have made (significant) improvements right across the board, and crucially they improved upon a chip that was already faster than Bulldozer.

Look at this and take into account the number of core and (crucially) the clock speed scaling

From what I've read, it's approx 7% better IPC over Llano..... To me thats a massive win all around. The other thing thats signifcant is that they so far just improved all the things that were easy to fix. Over time we're definitely going to see IPC improve with each new generation. Anyone have any info on when AMD's moving to 28nm? They're doing unbelieveably well to stay as competitive as they are when they're so far behind on process tech.

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From what I've read, it's approx 7% better IPC over Llano..... To me thats a massive win all around. The other thing thats signifcant is that they so far just improved all the things that were easy to fix. Over time we're definitely going to see IPC improve with each new generation. Anyone have any info on when AMD's moving to 28nm? They're doing unbelieveably well to stay as competitive as they are when they're so far behind on process tech.

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Yes, do you realise the implications of that?

Llano is Phenom II, basically.

Take a 4 core Phenom II and put it against a similar clocked Llano...

Oh look there is one here X4 940: 3Ghz vs A8-3850: 2.9Ghz scroll down a tad and look at the IPC dependent benches, take into account 2.9Ghz vs 3Ghz,- they match.
They would, Llano is a Thenom II without L3, or Athlon II with an IGP if you like...

Bulldozer is significantly behind Phenom II core for core / clock for clock.

The (Piledriver core) Trinity is faster than Llano, by extension faster than Phenom II, there in Piledriver is a vast improvement over Bulldozer.

I'm pretty sure with the (possible) implications of this, the full beans desktop FX-8350 is, while still not a match for IB clock for clock / core for core, snapping at its heals surely? add the higher clock speed into the mix, and?

AMD appears to be moving in the right direction with the Piledriver cores! Trinity offers a nice mobile solution.
Cannot wait until the Desktop units appear!

Lol, of course I do. At this point in PD is the best architecture AMD has EVER released in terms of IPC, likewise I'm hoping it has the abillity to overclock through the roof. Comes down to whether its any good for overclocking on air though. If you need dry ice to get a decent overclock then that ruins it for me.

This looks to be a turning point for AMD, however its also important to remember that Intels next revamp will be a change in architecture and they're likely to pull further ahead too. Mind you, we've had 2x AMD architecture releases in the time it took Intel to come up with Ivy Bridge. That is something significant too.

We may see AMD catching up to Intel sooner than previously expected if they keep up improvements at this pace and Intel don't speed up their tick/tock cycle. I'm keen to see how AMD competes on power when they go to 28nm, I want to know how far off it is. Likewise I want to know how much better it'll clock once its on it.....

To me this is affirmation that AMD made the right choices in creating the Bulldozer architecture, it has a huge amount of room for improvement.

When the desktop parts are released, I suspect the reviews may actually sit back and realise, wow, these are better than the Phenom II x6's. That has always been the main criticism of the FX's, that they're slower than the previous gen in so many tasks.

Ah just checking you didn't seem as buoyant as i was, i had to tie myself to my chair....

But even with that optimism, given AMD's recent track record i'm far from convinced, optimistic, but not convinced.

Yet we will know before the FX-8350, the Trinity Desktop part is coming up. then we will know.

Lol, I just want a stand alone piledriver to replace my FX-8120. I also want a supporting mATX board so I can reusing it in a system using the Silverstone SG01-E as a LAN rig.

Not wanting to put a spanner in the works but i have just noticed something, The Laptop part Trinity is running at a very much higher clock than the Llano Laptop part, i don't know right now what the scaling is but off hand it looks like that IPC performance gain is gone by the time Llano is scaled up.

Or worse.

*optimism has just gone*