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FRONTPAGE Intel Upcoming 9-series Chipset Won't Support Haswell
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Good thing my 3570K is doing me just fine at the current moment.
So many people who skipped 3rd gen are grinding their teeth right now. 
Albeit, by the time most people who bought 4th gen are ready to upgrade, they would likely be going to a new platform anyway.
Still...
Albeit, by the time most people who bought 4th gen are ready to upgrade, they would likely be going to a new platform anyway.
Still...
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One can feel the anger, outrage, disbelief in this...... if (and this is an if) Haswell is a "one and done" - it is hard to imagine how Intel can be so short sighted.
The only possible saying grace is that maybe, just maybe, "haswell refresh" be it "broadwell" or what ever it may be called. Might be sooooooo gooooood that one may find it in one's heart, mind and wallet to forgive Intel.
Then again that is somewhat doubtful?!?!?!?
The only possible saying grace is that maybe, just maybe, "haswell refresh" be it "broadwell" or what ever it may be called. Might be sooooooo gooooood that one may find it in one's heart, mind and wallet to forgive Intel.
Then again that is somewhat doubtful?!?!?!?
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How is it short sighted? To be short sighted it has to cause problems for Intel, not us.
Anybody remember 1156? P55?
S430?
Yet again yall ate confusing "this sucks for me" with "this is a bad business decision".
This won't hurt Intel in the slightest, or they wouldn't do it.
Don't forget how extremely revolutionary Haswell is! It might not be in performance, but in design it's bleeding edge and then some. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the chipset/socket/pinout needs to be changed.
Who's going to switch to AMD and lose what, 25% performance? More? Over this? Not me. Probably not you, either.
Anybody remember 1156? P55?
S430?
Yet again yall ate confusing "this sucks for me" with "this is a bad business decision".
This won't hurt Intel in the slightest, or they wouldn't do it.
Don't forget how extremely revolutionary Haswell is! It might not be in performance, but in design it's bleeding edge and then some. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the chipset/socket/pinout needs to be changed.
Who's going to switch to AMD and lose what, 25% performance? More? Over this? Not me. Probably not you, either.
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Yes, yes you make an excellent point. The fact of the matter is that it must violate one of the overclockers laws (know your upgrade path).
Haswell really truly is a "laptop part" and is a marvel of modern engineering. It is somewhat unfortunate that it may have a somewhat short life cycle.
I firmly believe that most forum members have pockets so deep that most of them won't really care. I get that. It just somewhat of a let down.
Again - VR Zone is a source (IIRC they reported this as well) it does get confusing
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The good thing is, when steamroller comes, i can just replace the CPU. 
Are you sure???The good thing is, when steamroller comes, i can just replace the CPU.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...ocket-Am3-is-DEAD-Socket-FM2-Now-AMD-High-end
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Compatability issues because power draw is to low? Higher, sure that makes sense but not so much lower.
Could they be planning to future proof their systems with the implementation of graphene into motherboards coming up? Which would be cool and set Intel up nicely, that stuff is the wounder material of this decade.
Could they be planning to future proof their systems with the implementation of graphene into motherboards coming up? Which would be cool and set Intel up nicely, that stuff is the wounder material of this decade.
You can blame last-gen consoles for that
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Hardware has been ahead of software, for the most part, for over a decade.
AMD is saddled with a lot of stuff they no longer use on the AM3 socket. DDR2 support for instance. VID for Brisbanes for another example. Tons of stuff it doesn't use that is actively consuming socket space.
Going to a new socket clears all that up and allows planning for the future instead of thrashing around trying to make an outdated socket function with a cutting edge CPU.
AMD could do with a bit of Intel style advancement at this point.
AMD is saddled with a lot of stuff they no longer use on the AM3 socket. DDR2 support for instance. VID for Brisbanes for another example. Tons of stuff it doesn't use that is actively consuming socket space.
Going to a new socket clears all that up and allows planning for the future instead of thrashing around trying to make an outdated socket function with a cutting edge CPU.
AMD could do with a bit of Intel style advancement at this point.
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meh this will not affect me at all im planning getting a nedw computer After I pay off my school loans and im still have a year left of school
so im thinking 3 years will be upgrade time unless I can run into some cash
but AMD NEEDS a new socket
and as for intel it happens AMD did it with the 9xx (ish)
so im thinking 3 years will be upgrade time
unless I can run into some cashbut AMD NEEDS a new socket
and as for intel it happens AMD did it with the 9xx (ish)
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Tbh i would be angry if AMD kills of the FX line(i don`t really think they will since it`s ~30% of their cpu sales). If they can make an Axx chip as fast as a ivy/haswell chip i could forgive them sort-of...
+1 to bob>>>"AMD could do with a bit of Intel style advancement at this point."
+1 to bob>>>"AMD could do with a bit of Intel style advancement at this point."
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typical intel
This is typical intel. designed in obsolescence. the last time intel had a socket last any reasonable time was the early days when pentiums shared the same socket as the outgoing 486. just look at the plethora of sockets over the last few years. I often try to wait and only upgrade every other generation at best. Whereas my server has a motherboard i bought in 2009 that i can put a vishera based FX cpu in right now if i wanted to. my linux machine has an am2+ motherboard and can fit a 125w phenom II. I think that motherboard is from 2007 or early 08. my intel system does not have quite the same "lifespan" (yeah the performance is a little better in general, but its probably the last intel system i will have for a long time).
This is typical intel. designed in obsolescence. the last time intel had a socket last any reasonable time was the early days when pentiums shared the same socket as the outgoing 486. just look at the plethora of sockets over the last few years. I often try to wait and only upgrade every other generation at best. Whereas my server has a motherboard i bought in 2009 that i can put a vishera based FX cpu in right now if i wanted to. my linux machine has an am2+ motherboard and can fit a 125w phenom II. I think that motherboard is from 2007 or early 08. my intel system does not have quite the same "lifespan" (yeah the performance is a little better in general, but its probably the last intel system i will have for a long time).
Forget about 2007 to 2009, we are in2013. Look at Ams's apu, they change socket at every cpu generstion.
The more cpu companies integrate into their cpus, the more we will see new chipsets and motherboards.
I don't care much about this, when I purchase a new cpu, I like to get the latest motherboard/chipset to go with it.
The more cpu companies integrate into their cpus, the more we will see new chipsets and motherboards.
I don't care much about this, when I purchase a new cpu, I like to get the latest motherboard/chipset to go with it.
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