How is ATI doing at the moment compared to NV?

batboy said:

I have the HD 2900XT which is the top dog for ATI. It has advantages and disadvantages. I belong to the OC Forums benchmarking team, so I've seen first hand how different vid cards bench on similar computers like my own. The 8800 Ultra generally will outperform the 2900XT in most tests. One notable exception is 3Dmark2005 for some reason. My rig does very well in that benchmark and will often beat similar rigs with 8800 cards (not sure specifically about the Ultra). Most everything else I fall behind though. But, for the price, it's not a bad compromise. What's the ultra run? About $600? For that price it better outperform the competition in most things.

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batboy said:

I have the HD 2900XT which is the top dog for ATI. It has advantages and disadvantages. I belong to the OC Forums benchmarking team, so I've seen first hand how different vid cards bench on similar computers like my own. The 8800 Ultra generally will outperform the 2900XT in most tests. One notable exception is 3Dmark2005 for some reason. My rig does very well in that benchmark and will often beat similar rigs with 8800 cards (not sure specifically about the Ultra). Most everything else I fall behind though. But, for the price, it's not a bad compromise. What's the ultra run? About $600? For that price it better outperform the competition in most things.

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soundfx4 said:

hmm...well what about ATI's new cards that are supposed to come out to compete with NVs 9800 series, does anyone know anything about them? I'm guessing not, but the way things are looking, I may just wait for the 9800s to come out so I can get an 8800 cheaper. Although I guess that depends entirely on how much faster ATI and NV's new line of cards are

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rainless said:

Not worth the wait. I'm playing Bioshock right now and it runs at a solid 60fps. Maybe Crysis will put more of a strain on the card... but somehow I doubt it.

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soundfx4 said:

Not worth the wait? Well that really depends, I mean I'm not going to be buying this stuff tomorrow, or even next week. I have to wait until I have a job before I buy anything, and depending on when I get a job also depends on when I'll be able to buy the upgrade. So if the 9800's won't be out until next year, then it's definitly not worth the wait, but if they'll be out in a few months then I may be able to wait for them. But it's good to know that if I end up getting an 8800 Ultra it will still be a kick *** card.


btw, I didn't know bioshock was out for PC too that's great news for me, since I love cheating, and stupid microsoft's 360 doesn't have a cheat device

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soundfx4 said:

I'm REALLY not trying to start a debate, so please fanboys don't get carried away here. I have a legit question about ATI that I'm hoping will not cause a mess.

I've been following NV for a little while now, but haven't checked up on ATI in quite a while, so I wanted to ask about ATI's latest technology and how it compares to NVs cards. Right now the best NV card is the 8800 Ultra, but what is ATI's answer to the 8800 Ultra? Also, what kinds of benchmarks and tests have been done to compare them? I'm looking to upgrade a computer and immediatly went for NV, but I decided I should check out ATI too since I'm not a fanboy, I just go for whatever I find to be faster, and if ATI has something faster, I definitly wouldn't want to miss out just because I'm too lazy to check up on another brand

Thanks

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rainless said:

Not worth the wait. I'm playing Bioshock right now and it runs at a solid 60fps. Maybe Crysis will put more of a strain on the card... but somehow I doubt it.

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batboy said:

One notable exception is 3Dmark2005 for some reason. My rig does very well in that benchmark and will often beat similar rigs with 8800 cards (not sure specifically about the Ultra).

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ryanmartini said:

dont cheat on that game.... the fun in it is using all kinds of objects, powers, and items to kill your enemies.

eg: using gun to catch a gas canister on fire, levitate a teddy bear through it and launch it at an enemy coated in fuel

twisted mind needed for bioshock

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soundfx4 said:

I'm sorry, but who are you to tell me what is fun for me? Don't even start a cheat argument with me, you won't win. I'll say this once, if you like challenges, then go ahead and play games without cheating, but don't EVER try to tell me what is fun, when that is all a matter of opinion. I prefer a relaxing gaming experience, and you don't $%#@ing get that kind of gaming experience when your constantly having to worry about dieing or losing.

I'm sorry, but this is a very sensitive subject for me, and it's best for nobody to respond negative to this.

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UnrealAlex said:

Crysis with open and destructible environments, foliage that moves and causes shadows, explosions, waves, volumetric clouds, depth of field, etc will probably put out a far bigger strain I think.

Viper pretty much summed it up in regards to the original question.

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Malpine Walis said:

OK, you guys are all looking at the “price is no object” segment. However, for some of us that is not what we are going to be buying. Right now, I am looking at getting 2 cards at around $200 each. Looking at newegg, that means either ATI 9500 or Nvidia 8600 cards.

From what I am seeing on google, ATI is doing quite well in that segment.

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