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Sephis

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My roommates girlfriend just received an "anonymous admirer" email from a newly created yahoo.com email. Whoever sent it knows a lot about her and was quite explicit in the things they "wanted to do to for her." The person mentioned a couple times about the "guys at the house," so I am thinking he lives off campus in a frat house. Can anyone give me instructions to find something about this person? An IP address, service provider, anything?

If I find the person who sent it, I'm gonna break their legs. She is a super nice girl, and this has really shaken her up.

BTW, she has already reported it to the police, and to women's services on campus, but there really isn't anything they can/will do at this point.
 
Allrighty, thanks for your help thideras. I'm gonna try to contact yahoo tomorrow. Anyone else wanna take a whack at it?
 
just delete and block...and get over it.
Yes, but the issue is if they know where she lives, etc.

This is something that I would never advise to "just drop". You follow through and punish the people that did this. I don't take chances.

According to the email headers, the person is in Germany, all I could pull from it :-/

Told him to contact Yahoo as they have records showing where they log into that account from. Hopefully they are in Germany or were behind a proxy when they sent it and log into the account without the proxy.
 
setup a temp domain but make it sound legit like "www.ipostmypicsyoupostyours.com" or whatever... setup one specific page that will record IP info... shoot you could probably do it with a generic website stat tracker. Once you have that, work with the cops and whoever the ISP is.

bait him. and if the page happened to be loaded with spyware galore so be it...
 
setup a temp domain but make it sound legit like "www.ipostmypicsyoupostyours.com" or whatever... setup one specific page that will record IP info... shoot you could probably do it with a generic website stat tracker. Once you have that, work with the cops and whoever the ISP is.

bait him. and if the page happened to be loaded with spyware galore so be it...

honestly, i wouldnt even go there ....

get the police involved asap and get the yahoo IP records if you can like thideras said :)




you never know what this sick **** will do to her and she needs to get him jailed ASAP if he's local for sure.
 
Well, I pretty sure hes local. He described her schedule and her boyfriend pretty well in the email. The police are involved, and I have will be contacting yahoo this afternoon to see if they can help us out.
 
Well, I pretty sure hes local. He described her schedule and her boyfriend pretty well in the email. The police are involved, and I have will be contacting yahoo this afternoon to see if they can help us out.



good good :) Yahoo may or may not give you this information. the Police Dept might have to supenoa for it. you did give them detialed information correct? IE The email header information, the yahoo mail address, the emails that were sent, etc?


edit: to be safe, NEVER let her out of your sight. have someone trustworthy, or even campus security escort her to and from her car (presuming that she lives off campus) i know its a little extreme, but its good to be safe then not to.
 
YGPM

Also. Yahoo is not legally obliged to cooperate with you, although they are required to cooperate with local law enforcement.

YHPM as well. The police here are a good group of men, but they have no idea how to handle cyber crime. They have everything I have, but I'm not sure what they plan to do with it.
 
I cant rele offer any advice but I do hope you get it sorted and she doesnt get harmed in any way.
 
Well, I pretty sure hes local. He described her schedule and her boyfriend pretty well in the email. The police are involved, and I have will be contacting yahoo this afternoon to see if they can help us out.


Sephis,

If there are reasonable grounds that a crime has been committed, either stalking, sexual harrassment or threats, an inquiry to Yahoo has to come from law enforcement just like Captain Newbie stated. This prevents you from taking it into your own hands and it also protects you. You cannot trace an IP address with Yahoo without their cooperation.

Since you also reported it to the school's womens services, they are now liable if they don't act on it too. You have done all the correct things but if you find out who it is and he's local, don't make any contact with the person. You don't want an AA&B complaint filed against you. Let the police handle it, be cool. We don't want to lose you from OC Forums! :thup:

If you local police don't know what to do with it after consulting whether a crime has been committed, they can find out easy enough. The county prosecutor will tell them and they can sign the complaint. We understand how the young lady feels, many times it's just a prank but it still needs to be taken seriously otherwise.
 
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if the person has any brains they use some community PC and not their own personal one, but hopefully they were stupid and used a personal PC to do it in their residence.

the only other way would be to bait them, work with the cops, get the girl to "play along" and catch the person in "person"
 
I haven't contacted yahoo yet. After thinking about it for a while, I came to the same conclusion as RollingThunder. If I found the guy, I would eventually end up in jail for armed assault. I think I'm going to have to leave the rest to professionals.

Edit: I just found out she has contacted an "investigator" of some sort to assist the police in their investigation. Not sure exactly what he does, but I think he specializes in cyber crime.
 
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I haven't contacted yahoo yet. After thinking about it for a while, I came to the same conclusion as RollingThunder. If I found the guy, I would eventually end up in jail for armed assault. I think I'm going to have to leave the rest to professionals.


Sephis,

Good man and logical thinking! Best to leave it alone now, if the police or the campus needs anything further, they will contact the young lady. If she stills feels threatened, make it known clearly. Just keep your documentation in order.
 
That is a last ditch effort. There are way too many potential problems with exposing yourself to someone like that.
 
There is, but iam going to guess the IP tracking wont end up in the person dorm room or personal residence with anything linking them to the email, they could easily say "um ya, my friend was over"

mmm, if it is from a yahoo.com email,. look up his email address in the yahoo personal sections, maybe this guy has an account with pictures and such :D you can also do a search of their email address under google, they could be memebers of forums or sites, even facebook, myspace, i beleive they allow email address searches :)
 
You are immediately cautioned that you should not tread in the territory of professionals, for you are not one. ;) Too, since there's the possibility of physical danger here, I would stay well clear.

YHPM as well. The police here are a good group of men, but they have no idea how to handle cyber crime. They have everything I have, but I'm not sure what they plan to do with it.

That's okay, but everyone thinks that cyber crime is somehow inherently different from normal crime. And it's not. At all.

The simple fact of the matter is that the crimes, in kinds and how they are carried out, are quite the same. They just happen faster—and are sometimes made easier—by the existence of technology.

There is, but iam going to guess the IP tracking wont end up in the person dorm room or personal residence with anything linking them to the email, they could easily say "um ya, my friend was over"
Five'll get you ten that the originating station is a public computer, or a computer located in a public area. It's very difficult—near impossible—to establish authoritatively that Person A was on Computer B at Time XX:YY if that computer is (1) a public computer, (2) a university computer, or (3) a personal computer located in a relatively public area, like a dorm room. The reasons are all relatively the same and are left as an exercise for a reader.

It's less likely that the offense could be committed from a corporate computer without some actual reliable record that Person A was at Computer B at time XX:YY.
 
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