Looking for a 4k monitor

Culbrelai · Jun 11, 2014

Meh, I've been browsing around monitors for a while, considering i've got quite the wad at the moment.

Apparently 4ks are pretty cheap now (less than 1k? Count me in!)

I was wondering what yall would recommend for ~$600 (or under)

I was oogling at this http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Monit...TF8&qid=1402503251&sr=8-7&keywords=4k+monitor

I know you need DisplayPort, my GTX 670s say they support 4k, and they have a displayport out. Do monitors come with displayport cables or are those usually seperate?

I was looking at this http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Monitor...F8&qid=1402503511&sr=8-2&keywords=4k+monitors

(I realize I bash Dell stuff constantly, but they're monitors are impeccable. I had a tiny square monitor from them that lasted literally 12 years, and only a bolt of lightning killed it...)

but saw reviews saying it was crap for gaming because it only gets 30 FPS.

No, cannot be a TV either. I need it to fit on my desk. Less than 30 inches.

ATMINSIDE · Jun 11, 2014

Why not this?

60Hz, Dell, $680

Witchdoctor · Jun 11, 2014

I have been looking at this one

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...K6xptmg8r4CFZBxOgodc30A3Q&Q=&is=REG&A=details

http://techreport.com/review/26510/4k-for-649-asus-pb287q-monitor-reviewed

http://www.legitreviews.com/asus-pb287q-28-4k-single-stream-60hz-monitor-review_142719

https://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB287Q/

EarthDog · Jun 11, 2014

I wouldn't recommend any 4K monitor under $600...

Also, if you plan on gaming on one, your 670's won't cut it. Not enough horsepower, and definitely not enough vRAM.

Culbrelai · Jun 11, 2014

4 GB vRAM is not enough for 4k? Just one 4k monitor? ...

Atminside, that shows up as $800ish on my screen... and even if it was $680, that's at the high end of my budget.

I do like the look of ASUS PB287Q 28 that Witchdoctor posted, that's really top notch in my price range, 60 FPS (why do they even use Hertz if it means the same thing as FPS?)
and 1ms response time

ATMINSIDE · Jun 11, 2014

Well, it WAS $680.

Because Hz is actually the unit of frequency where as FPS is a coined term.

EarthDog · Jun 11, 2014

Culbrelai said:
4 GB vRAM is not enough for 4k? Just one 4k monitor? ...

Atminside, that shows up as $800ish on my screen... and even if it was $680, that's at the high end of my budget.

I do like the look of ASUS PB287Q 28 that Witchdoctor posted, that's really top notch in my price range, 60 FPS (why do they even use Hertz if it means the same thing as FPS?)
and 1ms response time

I missed 4GB... you should be 'OK' there... but that is on a 256bit bus as well... Some IQ sacrifices will need to be made most likely.

hajalie24 · Jun 11, 2014

I'm pretty sure the PB287Q uses the same panel as the U28D590, it just seems to have a better stand. Confirm this before deciding, because I'm not 100% sure.

I'd get the U28D590 if you want a <$600 4k monitor today.

Also, if the monitor is for gaming only I wouldn't get it, because while you do notice the improved quality a lot, it really tanks the performance. But if you're going to use it for productivity work at some point, then all that real estate is really nice.

Culbrelai · Jun 12, 2014

I missed 4GB... you should be 'OK' there... but that is on a 256bit bus as well... Some IQ sacrifices will need to be made most likely.

Yeah, I remember yall laughing at me for buying 4GB cards...

What is IQ? (besides intelligence quotient)

I'd get the U28D590 if you want a <$600 4k monitor today.

Probably what I will go for, Samsung is a good brand.

Also, if the monitor is for gaming only I wouldn't get it, because while you do notice the improved quality a lot, it really tanks the performance.

I have two GTX 670s... that ought to be enough, hopefully, I don't mind putting things back to high or medium, at that high of a resolution. Besides, I can always get a third, or fourth GTX 670 since they are so cheap now and my motherboard and PSU can handle it. And I've always dreamed of quad SLI.

EarthDog · Jun 12, 2014

I don't recall laughing, but do recall steering you away from it because at the time of purchase, a 4K or multiple monitors were not in the picture.

Now, you have 4GB, but on a 256bit bus. You may need to turn down the AA a bit (which you can get away with on a 4k monitor) so things don't choke too much. 2 670's @ 4k you will likely need to turn some things down a bit.

Think about it... 4k = 3840x2160 = 8,294,400 pixels to render. 3x 1080p = 6,220,800 pixels. Its is literally rendering 33% more pixels than with 3 monitors and over 400% more than 1080p.

mimart7 · Jun 12, 2014

http://www.2560x1440monitor.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=u28&product_id=111

hajalie24 · Jun 12, 2014

Culbrelai said:
I have two GTX 670s... that ought to be enough, hopefully, I don't mind putting things back to high or medium, at that high of a resolution. Besides, I can always get a third, or fourth GTX 670 since they are so cheap now and my motherboard and PSU can handle it. And I've always dreamed of quad SLI.

I have 2 290s, if you like to be able to max everything out at 60fps well don't expect to. You also need some AA still if you don't like jaggies.

When I tested it out I noticed that Titanfall (the only game I played at the time) looked a lot different, particularly the enemy players, they looked way more detailed, like I was looking at the detailed version of them at the customization screen. But when I tried Battlefield 4 (a game I never play, which might explain things,) it didn't look too different than 1440p + 4xAA.

You'll have to always adjust settings before you play a game, instead of just setting everything to max and forgetting about it like you probably do now. Honestly don't think it's worth it, especially with these 4k monitors where the stand isn't adjustable, there's no VESA mounting, and the TN panel which has horrible viewing angles.

edit:
My advice, if possible, find a way to render your games at 4k then scale it back down to your resolution, like supersampling. If you're happy with the quality and performance then go for it.

here's what I found on it
http://e-mpire.com/showthread.php/127716-Supersampling-all-games-on-PC

Culbrelai · Jun 13, 2014

I have 2 290s, if you like to be able to max everything out at 60fps well don't expect to

I don't mind putting things back to high or medium, at that high of a resolution

it didn't look too different than 1440p + 4xAA.

Currently playing things on 1x 1080p monitor

especially with these 4k monitors where the stand isn't adjustable, there's no VESA mounting, and the TN panel which has horrible viewing angles.

Don't care. It's gonna sit on my desk, with me right in front of it. Why anyone would care about viewing angles on anything other than a TV is beyond me. I don't have a concert audience watching me play the computer. It's just me. Directly in front of it.

Meh, we'll see. There are a lot of fancy things in this price range I want. a 6 TB platter drive, a 1 TB SSD, a 4K monitor.

Decisions, Decisions.

deathman20 · Jun 13, 2014

You could bump up to a 2580 x 1440 (sorry can't remember the exact res) and get the Oculus Rift DK2

Culbrelai · Jun 16, 2014

So wow.

This http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=ZT-780AMP3

is ridiculously cheap. I'll hold off on 4k monitors untill they come down, and untill I have about $900 so I can buy two of these babies... I don't know what it is with me and Zotac, I just love their color scheme, even if their name does sound like a generic brand of Viagra®. Thanks for all your help though, I would bet that the $2,000 4k monitors are a lot higher quality than any ~$700 one I could buy, once they come down to lower levels I'll have a whack at them.

hajalie24 · Jun 17, 2014

^^^ I don't see how that's such a great deal, you can get a 290 for cheaper and that should perform better at 4k.

But here's a good deal on a 4k monitor with a nice stand and vesa mounts too

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...ffiliateID=rGMTN56tf_w-Vb1mQKzgRelkPgT6rkpN7Q

EarthDog · Jun 17, 2014

The dude is ALL about NVIDIA... facts be damned...

...lost cause.

Witchdoctor · Jun 17, 2014

hajalie24 said:
^^^ I don't see how that's such a great deal, you can get a 290 for cheaper and that should perform better at 4k.

But here's a good deal on a 4k monitor with a nice stand and vesa mounts too

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...ffiliateID=rGMTN56tf_w-Vb1mQKzgRelkPgT6rkpN7Q

nice find, 50 to 75Hz

I would love to have one just to see how my grinder would push it

Culbrelai · Jun 17, 2014

^^^ I don't see how that's such a great deal, you can get a 290 for cheaper and that should perform better at 4k.

But here's a good deal on a 4k monitor with a nice stand and vesa mounts too

WTH, why is that monitor only $500? Something must be wrong with it -_- Tigerdirect is notoriously overpriced too.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

As for that low quality brand you mentioned

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290-vs-GeForce-GTX-780

EarthDog · Jun 17, 2014

Culbrelai said:
As for that low quality brand you mentioned

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290-vs-GeForce-GTX-780

The reason to go 290/290x with 4K is the 512bit bus and 4GB of vRAM. You will need all of that if you plan on running any AA on 4K. Right now, your boys in green are 384bit and 3GB for the most part. With using much AA you will easily bump off the 3GB limit in modern titles. With BF4 at 2560x1440 (default Ultra = 4xMSAA) I use 2.4-2.6GB already.

Like I said Hajalie... lost cause... :rofl:

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