I think what Pikachu_Mommy is trying to get at (while also tossing the flame-bait about, and innaproriate) is that *some* nForce 2 boards aren't all that well made.
Take my ABIT NF7-S for example. Great board, I love it - I have nothing against it, or AMD, and am *EXTREMELY* happy with the results I have gotten with my AMD/nForce 2 system. That's my little anti-flame bit for all users of the same/similar hardware.
My board and XP 1800+ will pass memtest86, Prime95, SuperPi, HotCPUTesterPro, toast, etc. for 24 hours plus at a 26XX MHz 233 MHz FSB -> with my OCZ PC3500 EL RAM. So, my RAM isn't the problem, just like Pikachu_Mommy's RAM isn't his problem.
In 3DMark, and 3D aps I get freezing at anything above a 211 MHz FSB. So what is the problem? My RAM? My processor? OR maybe it is my motherboard - the AMD platform I am using. At 211 X 12.5 (2638 MHz) my system is totally, and completely stable - but the platform is limiting my FSB overclocking ventures -> if my processor was multiplier locked, I couldn't run my processor at the 2638 MHz I run it at daily. The AMD platform is simply not suited for FSB overclocking - nevermind you who have gotten to 230+ FSB stably - the large majority of us cannot get our motherboards stable past 210 FSB - and it has nothing to do with "overclocking skills".
Please don't tell me that I am an unskilled overclocker or that I don't know what I am doing, as you disrespectably did to Pikachu_Mommy, because both of us know what we are doing here, and what we are talking about.
Pikachu_Mommy is wrong to bait you guys, but you are even more wrong to take his bait, and provoke him even more - when what he is saying is very valud information.
I am disgusted by the way some of you have been talking to each other on the first page of this thread.
c627627 - I find it interesting that the Athlon 64's will be locked, while only the FX chips will be unlocked. I would have thought that AMD would keep all of the 64-bit desktop processors unlocked. In the long term I hope that the AMD platform improves, and begins to develop to allow for more reliable FSB headroom - which would make the lockededness of the new processor unimportant, and no roadblock to our overclocking ventures - we overclocked with locked AMDs for a long time before this, and we can again - if the platform can grow to support it.
Take my ABIT NF7-S for example. Great board, I love it - I have nothing against it, or AMD, and am *EXTREMELY* happy with the results I have gotten with my AMD/nForce 2 system. That's my little anti-flame bit for all users of the same/similar hardware.
My board and XP 1800+ will pass memtest86, Prime95, SuperPi, HotCPUTesterPro, toast, etc. for 24 hours plus at a 26XX MHz 233 MHz FSB -> with my OCZ PC3500 EL RAM. So, my RAM isn't the problem, just like Pikachu_Mommy's RAM isn't his problem.
In 3DMark, and 3D aps I get freezing at anything above a 211 MHz FSB. So what is the problem? My RAM? My processor? OR maybe it is my motherboard - the AMD platform I am using. At 211 X 12.5 (2638 MHz) my system is totally, and completely stable - but the platform is limiting my FSB overclocking ventures -> if my processor was multiplier locked, I couldn't run my processor at the 2638 MHz I run it at daily. The AMD platform is simply not suited for FSB overclocking - nevermind you who have gotten to 230+ FSB stably - the large majority of us cannot get our motherboards stable past 210 FSB - and it has nothing to do with "overclocking skills".
Please don't tell me that I am an unskilled overclocker or that I don't know what I am doing, as you disrespectably did to Pikachu_Mommy, because both of us know what we are doing here, and what we are talking about.
Pikachu_Mommy is wrong to bait you guys, but you are even more wrong to take his bait, and provoke him even more - when what he is saying is very valud information.
I am disgusted by the way some of you have been talking to each other on the first page of this thread.
c627627 - I find it interesting that the Athlon 64's will be locked, while only the FX chips will be unlocked. I would have thought that AMD would keep all of the 64-bit desktop processors unlocked. In the long term I hope that the AMD platform improves, and begins to develop to allow for more reliable FSB headroom - which would make the lockededness of the new processor unimportant, and no roadblock to our overclocking ventures - we overclocked with locked AMDs for a long time before this, and we can again - if the platform can grow to support it.