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5.1 speakers
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The Logitech Z506 is essentially your only all-in-one, self-contained option.
You could always get a cheap 5.1 receiver and a budget 5.1 set.
You could always get a cheap 5.1 receiver and a budget 5.1 set.
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Aren't those inferior to it's predecessor the Z-5500? I also heard that they have crappy high-frequency sound. I would get the Z-5500 but they're going for $800+
I've also been looking at speakers from Edifier. Anyone have any experience with them?
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Get an Onkyo home theater in a box. Will beat out anything in the same product line as a Logitech AND you could absolutely use it for an actual budget home theater. I'm running an Onkyo 5.1 receiver next to my desktop right now which was originally used as a home theater system when I was in college. Gaming is incredible when I plug my headphones into it. Connect it to your mobo via a toslink and you're golden.
Boom.
5.1. Cheaper than the Logitech and will sound far better.
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S350...1394073568&sr=8-2&keywords=onkyo+home+theater
7.1
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S560...1394073568&sr=8-3&keywords=onkyo+home+theater
PS: Darknecron, I like your sig. Agreed with those overpriced/hyped headphones.
Boom.
5.1. Cheaper than the Logitech and will sound far better.
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S350...1394073568&sr=8-2&keywords=onkyo+home+theater
7.1
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S560...1394073568&sr=8-3&keywords=onkyo+home+theater
PS: Darknecron, I like your sig. Agreed with those overpriced/hyped headphones.
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Pretty much any HTIB (home theater in a box) will beat every speaker set made by computer peripheral device / accessory manufacturers such as Logitech.
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The digital amplifier/receiver route is what I recommend but I suggest Samsung or Panasonic as they use a more modern HVIC output stage. In any case, if possible, take a look at a demo unit in a store and the power stage should not get particularly warm when it's on but not playing anything. (If it does, that means either the gate drive is letting through a lot of shoot through current or they cheaped out on the output filter. Note that the DSP section getting warm is OK.)
Also note that if you look through the vents and see what look like little black boxes bolted to the side of heatsinks (apart from those on the PSU board), that's the older IPM or discrete MOSFET design. The modern surface mount MOSFETs and HVICs would look like chipset heatsinks on a motherboard. The latter offer much better resolution as they can operate at higher carrier frequencies.
Also note that if you look through the vents and see what look like little black boxes bolted to the side of heatsinks (apart from those on the PSU board), that's the older IPM or discrete MOSFET design. The modern surface mount MOSFETs and HVICs would look like chipset heatsinks on a motherboard. The latter offer much better resolution as they can operate at higher carrier frequencies.
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Size is going to be an issue. There's just no space on my desk for a receiver like that.
I know what you mean Firepac, I have an old set that don't use and amp. I bought them about the time intel came out with the first pentium (not kidding) for around $75. I just don't see anything out there similar to them so when they die I'm gonna be wishing I had bought a spare set of them.
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http://www.amazon.com/Lepai-LP-168H...?ie=UTF8&qid=1394105918&sr=8-4&keywords=lepai
http://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-LP-2...?ie=UTF8&qid=1394106065&sr=8-3&keywords=lepai
Two of the first version would be better, the second comes with a 2amp power supply, which is inadequate at higher volume, though an $8-9 monitor power supply "fixes" the problem.
Seems the first version comes with a 3.5 amp power supply. Looks like another 6amp monitor brick would be needed.
Sould get your Creatives going again.
http://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-LP-2...?ie=UTF8&qid=1394106065&sr=8-3&keywords=lepai
Two of the first version would be better, the second comes with a 2amp power supply, which is inadequate at higher volume, though an $8-9 monitor power supply "fixes" the problem.
Seems the first version comes with a 3.5 amp power supply. Looks like another 6amp monitor brick would be needed.
Sould get your Creatives going again.
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Make sure whatever you get has either an Optical Toslink input or a USB input. Meaning, the unit you buy has the DAC built into it as opposed to utilizing the onboard DAC which typically is not that good.
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Are those suppose to be replacement for the receiver?
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They do essentially the same thing in a smaller package, but they don't have built in DSP (not important for use with a PC, actually better as it eliminates a possible source of lag) and use an analog input Delta Sigma modulator instead of a digital one. Not quite as good as a pure digital amplifier/receiver for music, but the price is right! For best results, max out the volumes on your PC (but stay out of overboost) and use the volume control on the amp to set the volume.
Look inside any modern receiver and you'll be surprised just how much empty space there is. Modern power electronics are very compact for their size - TI makes a 600W HVIC amplifier that's about the size of a quarter! (The whole solution is somewhat bigger than that but still tiny at around the size of a deck of cards!) It's more than possible to build 1500W of amplifier (including the PSU) into an enclosure smaller than a shoebox, but there's just not much market for such a device.
Look inside any modern receiver and you'll be surprised just how much empty space there is. Modern power electronics are very compact for their size - TI makes a 600W HVIC amplifier that's about the size of a quarter! (The whole solution is somewhat bigger than that but still tiny at around the size of a deck of cards!) It's more than possible to build 1500W of amplifier (including the PSU) into an enclosure smaller than a shoebox, but there's just not much market for such a device.
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Parts Express has a reasonable selection of "build your own parts."
Building speakersconsists of selecting power supply(amplifier), tweeters, woofer(s), and crossover.
Tweeters should be at or pointed at listening ear level. Bass is non directional, so location is not an issue.
Power and power handling are very misunderstood and represented. Sound pressure from a tweeter at 1 watt 1 meter can be 80db to 110db. Generally efficient tweeters range about 89-92 db.
Bass can take power. Klipsh Kornerhorns were a prestereo design using a room corner as part of a folded horn. Large efficient, driven by a few watts. Large speaker(s) in a small sealed box need large power to drive them. Various sizes and ported speakers fit between. Generally compromises are made.
Crossovers are intended to "join" tweeters to woofers. They filer low frequencies from the tweeter and pass them to the woofers. Mostly sound quality falls off as tweeters attempt to reproduce low frequencies. Woofers (while they can be full range) are most efficient producing low frequencies.
Woofers are "omnidirectional," location and orientation means little.
Tweeter suffer from "narrow point source" syndrome. How widely the tweeter disperses sound.
My feeling is repowering your existing speaker set, say with the Lepai to the small speakers and a plate amp for the sub would be easiest and cheapest.
http://www.parts-express.com/?utm_c...up=B_Brand_Terms_Exact&utm_term=parts express
Building speakersconsists of selecting power supply(amplifier), tweeters, woofer(s), and crossover.
Tweeters should be at or pointed at listening ear level. Bass is non directional, so location is not an issue.
Power and power handling are very misunderstood and represented. Sound pressure from a tweeter at 1 watt 1 meter can be 80db to 110db. Generally efficient tweeters range about 89-92 db.
Bass can take power. Klipsh Kornerhorns were a prestereo design using a room corner as part of a folded horn. Large efficient, driven by a few watts. Large speaker(s) in a small sealed box need large power to drive them. Various sizes and ported speakers fit between. Generally compromises are made.
Crossovers are intended to "join" tweeters to woofers. They filer low frequencies from the tweeter and pass them to the woofers. Mostly sound quality falls off as tweeters attempt to reproduce low frequencies. Woofers (while they can be full range) are most efficient producing low frequencies.
Woofers are "omnidirectional," location and orientation means little.
Tweeter suffer from "narrow point source" syndrome. How widely the tweeter disperses sound.
My feeling is repowering your existing speaker set, say with the Lepai to the small speakers and a plate amp for the sub would be easiest and cheapest.
http://www.parts-express.com/?utm_c...up=B_Brand_Terms_Exact&utm_term=parts express
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