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RedDragonXXX

RedDragonXXX

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I just got the game and the guns you start out with are just straight out horrible (primarily assault). I started playing Team DM in order to level quicker which is what I did with BF3 I but can't kill anyone. I've tried AUTO, SINGLE, BURST, but nothing works. I empty entire clip on a guy with maybe 8-10 hits landing and nothing, then they just turn around and one shot me. Am I doing something wrong or are these starting guns just that bad because I don't remember this being this hard when BF3 came out.

Anyone have any suggestion???
 
The starting weapons are fairly bad, but if you're emptying an entire mag into a dude's back and he's killing you, then it could be user error :)

In all seriousness, though, I've found this game much more difficult than BF3. I still seem to finish at the top of the list in most servers, but my kill to death ratio is definitely lower. Having a good squad really helps with staying alive longer...
 
I've found the net code to be pretty awful. I've stopped playing it at level 7, sick of the bugs, lag spikes, and dying during a black screen.
 
I was going to say... right off the bat? The weapons out of the gate are not great, but, still...
 
I'm playing on normal server so far. It seems that Team DM is much more chaotic. I've played I think 3 maps and pretty much everyone is at one choke point and just unloading bullets, grenades, other bombs... blindly at each other. There is no any kind of strategy involved. I've tried roaming around and when I do manage to sneak up on someone with their backs turned which in previous BF3 was almost guaranteed kill for me I burst fire at them but can't kill them. They just turn around and instant kill me. Its just feel strange coming from BF3 to now. Is there some kind of health / armor scaling as you level?

On a side note this is why I hate the whole unlock concept with games like this. I'm couple of days behind the launch date and feel very behind. BF2 was the best in my opinion you could just jump into the game at any point and be at the same level, you didn't have to get stomped on game after game just to unlock a some scope that you will never use. I've played BF3 for 100's of hours and never once used used a helicopter or airplane. Well I did drive them but you get instantly shot down because some other guy has more stuff unlocked and you have no chance. Its just stupid concept to me. Give everyone that plays an even footing.

Also the graphics seems much worse. Specially the menus, it looks like its running at a very low resolution even if I have it at max settings.
 
A couple of things:

Are you playing in a local server which gives you a low ping?

Have you tried a hardcore server?

When firing any rifle in the game, I aim basically at the opponents belt line and fire in bursts of 2 to 3 shots. Recoil causes the barrel to jump substantially and thus the next several shots hit mid chest.

There are several that have little to no recoil and you can basically sit there holding the trigger down while aimed at mid chest and get kills though.

Good guns based on classes:

Assault:

AK-12: great gun. Very easy to rack up kills with.
SCAR-H: I have not used yet.
M416 also very well balanced.
SAR-21: current gun and liking it also.

Engineer:

MX4: seems decent all around, quick to get up to sights, not too much recoil

I have not used any other PDW yet.

Support:

Personally, I have stayed away from the LMGs, I could not for the life of me kill anyone with them.

Recon:

I wont even begin to touch on the sniper rifles, they are an entirely separate beast.

All classes can use the Carbines, once you unlock them. They are (IMO) by far the best rifles for overall use.

AK 5C: great starter carbine, loved it.
ACW-R: Awesome carbine! Still great just like in BF3.
SG553: it was great in BF3 and I have heard lots of positive feedback regarding the BF4 version, but I have not personally tried it.
ACE 52 QCB: slower firing carbine, but it seems to have some stopping power. I would say its a mid range gun based on usability and kills.
G36C: It seems like they have buffed this carbine since BF3. I am liking it AFTER you get done with its horrid iron sights.

Also regarding normal servers, I find them to be frustrating for several reasons:

The spotting of enemy troops is better than BF3 (ie when you go behind cover the marker doesn't linger quite as long) but its still absurd IMO.

It does seem like they have reduced the amount of hits needed to kill someone in BF4 vs BF3 for normal mode, but its still a lot. AS for the one shot scenario, it may seem like it, but they are experiencing the exact thing you are. Most likely they are unloading half their magazine into you as well. Next time you die, look at the health left of the enemy who killed you to see how close you came to killing them. You will be surprised..
 
idk just aim for the head bro ive been murdilating people with the starter pistol i have as many kills with it as do with the sniper rifle.

just ask fps doug.

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Tokae said:
A couple of things:

Are you playing in a local server which gives you a low ping?

Have you tried a hardcore server?

When firing any rifle in the game, I aim basically at the opponents belt line and fire in bursts of 2 to 3 shots. Recoil causes the barrel to jump substantially and thus the next several shots hit mid chest.

There are several that have little to no recoil and you can basically sit there holding the trigger down while aimed at mid chest and get kills though.

Good guns based on classes:

Assault:

AK-12: great gun. Very easy to rack up kills with.
SCAR-H: I have not used yet.
M416 also very well balanced.
SAR-21: current gun and liking it also.

Engineer:

MX4: seems decent all around, quick to get up to sights, not too much recoil

I have not used any other PDW yet.

Support:

Personally, I have stayed away from the LMGs, I could not for the life of me kill anyone with them.

Recon:

I wont even begin to touch on the sniper rifles, they are an entirely separate beast.

All classes can use the Carbines, once you unlock them. They are (IMO) by far the best rifles for overall use.

AK 5C: great starter carbine, loved it.
ACW-R: Awesome carbine! Still great just like in BF3.
SG553: it was great in BF3 and I have heard lots of positive feedback regarding the BF4 version, but I have not personally tried it.
ACE 52 QCB: slower firing carbine, but it seems to have some stopping power. I would say its a mid range gun based on usability and kills.
G36C: It seems like they have buffed this carbine since BF3. I am liking it AFTER you get done with its horrid iron sights.

Also regarding normal servers, I find them to be frustrating for several reasons:

The spotting of enemy troops is better than BF3 (ie when you go behind cover the marker doesn't linger quite as long) but its still absurd IMO.

It does seem like they have reduced the amount of hits needed to kill someone in BF4 vs BF3 for normal mode, but its still a lot. AS for the one shot scenario, it may seem like it, but they are experiencing the exact thing you are. Most likely they are unloading half their magazine into you as well. Next time you die, look at the health left of the enemy who killed you to see how close you came to killing them. You will be surprised..
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It think the server I played on are normal and its usually between 50-60ms ping, which is not that bad. As for hardcore I don't think I played on one yet, is that like one shot kill like old days in Ghost Recon?

Also I recall back from BF3 or could be Bad Company 2 there was a server I played on that had all the unlocks open and was ton of fun to play on. Is there such thing on BF4?

And on the last note what is the best way to level / grind to good unlocks? In BF3 I played Conquest and switched to Team DM because it was far more rewarding as far as unlocks go.
 
RedDragonXXX said:
It think the server I played on are normal and its usually between 50-60ms ping, which is not that bad. As for hardcore I don't think I played on one yet, is that like one shot kill like old days in Ghost Recon?

Also I recall back from BF3 or could be Bad Company 2 there was a server I played on that had all the unlocks open and was ton of fun to play on. Is there such thing on BF4?

And on the last note what is the best way to level / grind to good unlocks? In BF3 I played Conquest and switched to Team DM because it was far more rewarding as far as unlocks go.
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Yeah as a server admin you can do all unlocks but they aren't Official servers at that point so your XP Doesn't count. Those are normally like competition and private servers I used to do events where we would do that in BF3 and its still there in BF4.

As for unlocks. I level up very fast in CQ Playing with my clan a great team makes up for everything and the battle packs help ;)
 
Anyone care to shoot me an invite on PC? I was fairly decent on xbox with one other buddy I played with. Now that I am running solo I am getting overwhelmed XD. No revives or tearmwork -.- Check out my stats @ Alzerm0 via battlelog if you like. Someone help me out. It's hard out here running solo haha
 
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