Newbie Question, what's wrong?

DreamingWolf · 08-21-02, 09:12 AM

Help, I've been making my first forays into overclocking and hit a snag. My system posts, my boot loader (LILO) runs, but neither of my OS's (WinXP pro, Suse Linux 8.0) will load. Will boot to floppy or CD and harddisk diags say my HDs are fine. Did I fry my chip, Mobo or just mess up my OSs? Is there any chance I hurt my video card? Oh yeah, WinXP did load in safe mode but even system restore did not bring up the regular mode. HELP!!!

DreamingWolf · 08-21-02, 09:24 AM

Forgot to tell ya 2 things, no clue what kind of mem I have, but I had just flashed a beta bios from Soyo that had a voltage setting in it, but that option is missing from the bios now. How could that happen???

Exar Jun · 08-21-02, 10:04 AM

You might want to move this one down to the OS forum to get better help.

donny_paycheck · 08-21-02, 10:13 AM

It sounds to me like an OS problem. You definitely didn't fry your CPU or mobo if it POSTs and boots to the OS booting portion without trouble. You might have corrupted your hard disk(s).

Try posting this in the Operating Systems section like Exar said. You'll probably get more responses there.

WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!

Exar Jun · 08-21-02, 10:19 AM

My bad Wolf.

Welcome to the Forums!!!

DreamingWolf · 08-21-02, 03:41 PM

Thanks for the welcome and the advice, however, it turns out I fried my video card (pny g4 t4600 / ouch) digging in the case to get at the cmos reset jumper. DRAT

Anyway thanks again and you probably be hearing alot more of my oopses in the coming weeks.

BTW any ideas about the vcore setting that 'vanished' from my bios setup screens??

macklin01 · 08-21-02, 05:25 PM

Welcome to the forums.

Hmm, I know that some mobos support dual BIOS's -- that is, they have a current and a backup BIOS on them. Not sure if yours is one of them.

Also, what is your FSB right now?

If your OS doesn't load with the overclock, it might just be that your northbridge/IDE controller/hdd doesn't like the overclock.

For example, on my system, my highest attainable overclock is 156 MHz FSB. At that range, the PCI divider is 1/4, so the PCI bus runs at 39 MHz. (As opposed to 33.333 MHz.) If I push it any farther, I get file errors when loading the OS from the hdd, but not from CDROM, just as you describe. (Both Linux RH 7.3 and WinXP Pro)

So, once you get your poor video card back in order, boot into BIOS and decrease your FSB and see if that does the trick.

Good luck! -- Paul

DreamingWolf · 08-22-02, 02:44 AM

Hey Paul, thanks for the tips. FSB is presently at 135. I stuck in an ancient 16M 3dfx card I had and the system booted right up w/ no trouble. Before the demise of my real card I had discovered that @ default voltage I could only get the FSB to 137 and still be stable, that my Mobo only liked upping the voltage by 0.025, but with that I could reach the low 140s. I can't find where in the bios to adjust PCI divider, (also have to learn how to properly tweak it when I do find it)
BTW where should I go to get good diagnostic tools that I can put on a bootable CD that don't need a shell to run so that if (make that when) I mess up again I can find out right away whats up???
Thanks again for the welcome, you guys are GREAT!!!

-D

08-21-02, 09:12 AM	Thread Starter #1
DreamingWolf Wheel Walker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Through the wormhole	Newbie Question, what's wrong? Help, I've been making my first forays into overclocking and hit a snag. My system posts, my boot loader (LILO) runs, but neither of my OS's (WinXP pro, Suse Linux 8.0) will load. Will boot to floppy or CD and harddisk diags say my HDs are fine. Did I fry my chip, Mobo or just mess up my OSs? Is there any chance I hurt my video card? Oh yeah, WinXP did load in safe mode but even system restore did not bring up the regular mode. HELP!!!
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08-21-02, 09:24 AM	Thread Starter #2
DreamingWolf Wheel Walker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Through the wormhole	Forgot to add Forgot to tell ya 2 things, no clue what kind of mem I have, but I had just flashed a beta bios from Soyo that had a voltage setting in it, but that option is missing from the bios now. How could that happen???
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08-21-02, 10:04 AM	#3
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08-21-02, 10:13 AM	#4
donny_paycheck Inactive Super Quad Mod Join Date: Oct 2001	It sounds to me like an OS problem. You definitely didn't fry your CPU or mobo if it POSTs and boots to the OS booting portion without trouble. You might have corrupted your hard disk(s). Try posting this in the Operating Systems section like Exar said. You'll probably get more responses there. WELCOME TO THE FORUMS! __________________ Core i7 920 @ 4 GHz, 1.35v Corsair Nautilus 500 w/DD BIX radiator swap & Apogee GTX Asus P6T 6GB Corsair Dominator XFX GeForce GTX 285 WD Raptor 150GB / Hitachi 1TB Antec P182 / PCP&C Silencer 750 Samsung 2232GW Sic vis pacem, para bellum.
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08-21-02, 03:41 PM	Thread Starter #6
DreamingWolf Wheel Walker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Through the wormhole	found the problem Thanks for the welcome and the advice, however, it turns out I fried my video card (pny g4 t4600 / ouch) digging in the case to get at the cmos reset jumper. DRAT Anyway thanks again and you probably be hearing alot more of my oopses in the coming weeks. BTW any ideas about the vcore setting that 'vanished' from my bios setup screens??
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08-21-02, 05:25 PM	#7
macklin01 Computational Oncologist / Biomathematician / Moderator on Vacation, Ph.D. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pasadena, CA	Welcome to the forums. Hmm, I know that some mobos support dual BIOS's -- that is, they have a current and a backup BIOS on them. Not sure if yours is one of them. Also, what is your FSB right now? If your OS doesn't load with the overclock, it might just be that your northbridge/IDE controller/hdd doesn't like the overclock. For example, on my system, my highest attainable overclock is 156 MHz FSB. At that range, the PCI divider is 1/4, so the PCI bus runs at 39 MHz. (As opposed to 33.333 MHz.) If I push it any farther, I get file errors when loading the OS from the hdd, but not from CDROM, just as you describe. (Both Linux RH 7.3 and WinXP Pro) So, once you get your poor video card back in order, boot into BIOS and decrease your FSB and see if that does the trick. Good luck! -- Paul __________________ My heatware (macklin01) Need image I/O for your science apps? Try EasyBMP My biomedical research: Mathematical Cancer Modeling & Simulation I'm on vacation as a moderator as I devote more time to my faculty position. Thank you for your understanding if I don't respond to your PM. -- Paul
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08-22-02, 02:44 AM	Thread Starter #8
DreamingWolf Wheel Walker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Through the wormhole	Hey Paul, thanks for the tips. FSB is presently at 135. I stuck in an ancient 16M 3dfx card I had and the system booted right up w/ no trouble. Before the demise of my real card I had discovered that @ default voltage I could only get the FSB to 137 and still be stable, that my Mobo only liked upping the voltage by 0.025, but with that I could reach the low 140s. I can't find where in the bios to adjust PCI divider, (also have to learn how to properly tweak it when I do find it) BTW where should I go to get good diagnostic tools that I can put on a bootable CD that don't need a shell to run so that if (make that when) I mess up again I can find out right away whats up??? Thanks again for the welcome, you guys are GREAT!!! -D __________________ Respect always the pathways that others follow in their spiritual journey. --DWolf Patience is the willingness to review and revise your expectations. --DWolf (At least I don't think I've ever seen it elsewhere) "Science has sometimes been said to be opposed to faith, and inconsistent with it. But all science, in fact, rests on a basis of faith, for it assumes the permanence and uniformity of natural laws - a thing which can never be demonstrated." --Tyron Edwards Don't know where to start? Try the forums search function, or just PM me and I'll help or find who can :D. Has someone helped above and beyond? Post a Thank You here Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe, AMD x64 4800+, 4G Corsair 3500, 2X BFG7800 in SLI mode, 2X 24" Dell flatpanels, Audigy 2zs platinum, & enough fans to hover the space shuttle:)
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