Sabertooth Z77 vs Maximus Extreme

Media · 08-12-12, 11:15 PM

I am stuck between the Sabertooth Z77 and Maximus Extreme on a new build. I LOVE how the Sabertooth looks, love the armor that serves for cooling. I want the best performance. I feel like the cooling might be a bit better on the Sabertooth, but I do like that the Maximus has PCI 5-x16 ports vs 3x16 PCI. Or if not what about the ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM? Let me know!

CPU: Intel i7 3770K which I might end up over-clocking later on to 4.0GHz or 4.2GHz tops. Just a nice extra kick out of it

Knufire · 08-12-12, 11:28 PM

These are WAY overkill for 4.2GHz, lol. Any other specific features you need?

Media · 08-13-12, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Knufire

These are WAY overkill for 4.2GHz, lol. Any other specific features you need?

Your saying 4.2GHz is nothing for these boards? I would like the USB 3.0 since I'm constantly transfering data. Plus I like the new features of ASUS mobos for easy OC, BiOS and so on

Knufire · 08-13-12, 08:56 AM

Overclocking with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge is much different than previous generations. Since the FSB is locked and everything is multiplier based, overclocking is very independent of the motherboard. With sufficient cooling, 4.5GHz is easily doable on an ASRock Z77 Extreme4.

USB 3.0 and SATA III are built into the chipset, every motherboard will have them.

Mjolnir · 08-13-12, 09:25 AM

Going off another thread; I'd assume the OP has already decided on the Sabertooth. I agree with Knufire. Higher-end boards just aren't worth the price premium anymore... (Rich coming from me; someone running a Maximus Gene V, but hey). I don't use near half the features of this board.. In fact I've barely touched 20% of the features of this board. Honestly. :\.

boosteeddc · 08-13-12, 09:30 AM

unless your goin extreme oc or quad sli/xfire, the rog is way overkill for any of your needs, i personally have the sabertooth z77 with the same question you have in mind now when i bought it, but i dont regret a bit, the board introduction makes it sound like a reliable daily driver with nothin special, but it overclocks my 3770k nicely to 5.0 way too easy. its got all the features i need and more, and not to mention it looks great! i didnt install the lil fan ontop of the pci slot to give it a even cleaner look.

Media · 08-13-12, 11:17 PM

Well see I was going to go with ThermalTake's FRIO cpu cooler but than made my mind up and got the Corsair H100 liquid cooling. The thing is I will be doing lots rendering, media, and some graphics. Its not prob for me, I love the Sabertooth Z77. In the end, it will be OC to a tops of 4.5GHz, ATi xFire 7870s.

boosteeddc · 08-14-12, 01:45 AM

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Well see I was going to go with ThermalTake's FRIO cpu cooler but than made my mind up and got the Corsair H100 liquid cooling. The thing is I will be doing lots rendering, media, and some graphics. Its not prob for me, I love the Sabertooth Z77. In the end, it will be OC to a tops of 4.5GHz, ATi xFire 7870s.

i got my 7870 block f/s in the classified if you find yourself needing to wc those to get higher clocks!

Media · 08-14-12, 03:37 AM

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i got my 7870 block f/s in the classified if you find yourself needing to wc those to get higher clocks!

I see your system is similar to mine. How do you like it? 3770K on Sabertooth.

txus.palacios · 08-14-12, 05:09 AM

I agree, the ROG series are no longer worth the premium most times. Same happens to me and my MVG. There are lots of different voltages, clock skews, and what not. I don't know what half of them do.

I guess ROG boards are, now that overclocking is almost always CPU dependent, only for LN2 and extreme cooling. The LN2 mode and that stuff is really neat, but, for playing Minesweeper while you surf OCF, it isn't worth the premium.

Though, to defend myself, the MVG was the cheapest Z77 board that my retailer had available :3!

Mjolnir · 08-14-12, 05:14 AM

The MVG was almost 300 here... A full size atx z77 board was already available for just over half that. GG Aus prices.

txus.palacios · 08-14-12, 05:31 AM

It was the cheapest available, I think there were some from ASRock that were gonna arrive in a couple of weeks and also one from Gigabyte (UD3H IIRC) that was barely 10 EUR less than the MVG, so I couldn't resist :P. I needed the computer up for work asap, too, so I bought the MVG.

boosteeddc · 08-14-12, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Media

I see your system is similar to mine. How do you like it? 3770K on Sabertooth.

no issues at all, overclocks nicely, very pleased

Media · 08-14-12, 06:18 PM

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no issues at all, overclocks nicely, very pleased

Good to hear. As for ASRock, I real lots of reviews saying their mobo had issues and such.

Operant · 08-14-12, 07:07 PM

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Good to hear. As for ASRock, I real lots of reviews saying their mobo had issues and such.

From what I have seen, there is a lot of issues on the user end instead of ASRock's. I am running the Extreme4 with the 3770k with zero issues (4.5GHz was dead simple on air). Although they all are great boards (the MVE and Sabertooth obviously will have more features), the Extreme4 probably has the best bang for your buck right now.

Edit: I also want to point out that there was some bios issues (ASRock's fault) a while back but they have been fixed with the newer bios versions (yours will come with a newer version).

txus.palacios · 08-15-12, 03:53 AM

Yes, BIOS sucked a while ago. And NEVER flash beta BIOS even if they're gonna fix something you need. I was in the market for an Ivy and flashed my board to the BETA Ivy BIOS (I had a P67 Extreme4). The board dropped compatibility with ALL nVidias, it seems, since I couldn't use my 470s, or a friends 9800GTX+, or my fathers GTX260. I dropped a friend's HD2600XT, and it posted perfectly. I had to buy a new board because it seemed that BIOS upgraded something (I think it was IME?) and the downgrade was not possible. Not to mention that ASRock's customer support hasn't replied me yet. So I bought this MVG because I was in a rush, and since the board posted with a HD2600XT, I was sure the e-tailer I bought it from won't even care to send it to the distributor.

nanoscale · 08-26-12, 08:41 AM

Do you really need 5 pci-e 3.0? ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM will be suited your needs.

Media · 08-26-12, 06:12 PM

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Do you really need 5 pci-e 3.0? ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM will be suited your needs.

Sort of the route I went. I looked at the Sabertooth vs P8Z77-vPro side by side, and the P8Z77 offered the same, except one or two more PCI slots but allowed for over-clocked memory where as the Sabertooth stopped at 1866MHz, the other went to like 2300MHz I think. Plus its cheaper, and the armor on the sabertooth probably doesn't do much for heat reduction

08-12-12, 11:15 PM	Thread Starter #1
Media Member Join Date: Aug 2012	Sabertooth Z77 vs Maximus Extreme I am stuck between the Sabertooth Z77 and Maximus Extreme on a new build. I LOVE how the Sabertooth looks, love the armor that serves for cooling. I want the best performance. I feel like the cooling might be a bit better on the Sabertooth, but I do like that the Maximus has PCI 5-x16 ports vs 3x16 PCI. Or if not what about the ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM? Let me know! CPU: Intel i7 3770K which I might end up over-clocking later on to 4.0GHz or 4.2GHz tops. Just a nice extra kick out of it __________________ Carbide 400R, I7 3770K, ASUS P8Z77-vPro, MSI Radeon2x 3GB HD 7970 CrossFire (moved 1x XFX DD R7970), Corsair 8GB 1866MHz Vengence, 120GB SSD, Win7 Pro-64, Corsair H100, Creative XF-I Titanium, XFX Core-Edition 650W 80+ Bronze Cert PSU
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08-12-12, 11:28 PM	#2
Knufire Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI	These are WAY overkill for 4.2GHz, lol. Any other specific features you need?
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08-13-12, 08:56 AM	#4
Knufire Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI	Overclocking with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge is much different than previous generations. Since the FSB is locked and everything is multiplier based, overclocking is very independent of the motherboard. With sufficient cooling, 4.5GHz is easily doable on an ASRock Z77 Extreme4. USB 3.0 and SATA III are built into the chipset, every motherboard will have them.
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08-13-12, 09:25 AM	#5
Mjolnir Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia	Going off another thread; I'd assume the OP has already decided on the Sabertooth. I agree with Knufire. Higher-end boards just aren't worth the price premium anymore... (Rich coming from me; someone running a Maximus Gene V, but hey). I don't use near half the features of this board.. In fact I've barely touched 20% of the features of this board. Honestly. :\. __________________ \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Motherboard - Asus Maximus Gene V Z77 CPU - i5 2500K @ 4.5ghz 1.3v /w Corsair H60 SE + GT AP-13 /w Scythe Kaze Master Fan Controller (GT AP-13/AP 181) RAM - 8GB G Skill Ripjaws 1600mhz. GPU - Asus GTX 670 DCUII Storage - Samsung 840 Pro 256GB + 2TB Seagate Cuda. Case - Silverstone TJ08-E PSU - Corsair HX650 OS - Windows 7 Ult 64 Peripherals - Leopold FC700R Graphite Brown MX + G500 Mouse Screen(s) - Dell U2711 Audio - Audioengine 5+ + Audioengine D1 + Wharfdale SW150 /w Shure SRH 840 Headphones
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08-13-12, 09:30 AM	#6
boosteeddc Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: winter garden FL	unless your goin extreme oc or quad sli/xfire, the rog is way overkill for any of your needs, i personally have the sabertooth z77 with the same question you have in mind now when i bought it, but i dont regret a bit, the board introduction makes it sound like a reliable daily driver with nothin special, but it overclocks my 3770k nicely to 5.0 way too easy. its got all the features i need and more, and not to mention it looks great! i didnt install the lil fan ontop of the pci slot to give it a even cleaner look. __________________ case: corsair 800D mobo: Z77 SABERTOOTH cpu: i7 3770k 4.5ghz ram: vengeance 8gb 1600mhz cooling: xspc raystorm,swiftech mcp655B,danger den acrylic res, xspc ex240 rad push/pull, swiftech 360rad push/pull, 1/2 3/4fittings all around, koolance drain port. psu: corsair hx750 HDD: crucial m4 + WD BLK caviar gpu: gigabyte gtx680 + hydro copper block 10 x NZXT fn-120rb 2 x NZXT fn-140rb scythe 6 channel fan controller
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08-13-12, 11:17 PM	Thread Starter #7
Media Member Join Date: Aug 2012	Well see I was going to go with ThermalTake's FRIO cpu cooler but than made my mind up and got the Corsair H100 liquid cooling. The thing is I will be doing lots rendering, media, and some graphics. Its not prob for me, I love the Sabertooth Z77. In the end, it will be OC to a tops of 4.5GHz, ATi xFire 7870s. __________________ Carbide 400R, I7 3770K, ASUS P8Z77-vPro, MSI Radeon2x 3GB HD 7970 CrossFire (moved 1x XFX DD R7970), Corsair 8GB 1866MHz Vengence, 120GB SSD, Win7 Pro-64, Corsair H100, Creative XF-I Titanium, XFX Core-Edition 650W 80+ Bronze Cert PSU
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08-14-12, 05:09 AM	#10
txus.palacios Premium Member #18 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cádiz (Spain)	I agree, the ROG series are no longer worth the premium most times. Same happens to me and my MVG. There are lots of different voltages, clock skews, and what not. I don't know what half of them do. I guess ROG boards are, now that overclocking is almost always CPU dependent, only for LN2 and extreme cooling. The LN2 mode and that stuff is really neat, but, for playing Minesweeper while you surf OCF, it isn't worth the premium. Though, to defend myself, the MVG was the cheapest Z77 board that my retailer had available :3! __________________ Maximus V Gene \| i5-2500k 4.8GHz (ekHF) \| 16GiB \| GTX470 SLi @ 800MHz (ekFC) \| m4 128GB \| T50-RP \| Arch Linux + Windows 8 Pro \| gaming P67 Extreme4 B3 \| i3-2120T 35W 2.6GHz \| 32GiB \| ZFS - zRAID1 2TB \| VMware vSphere (ESXi) 5.1 \| server Samsung RC520 \| i5-2410M 2.3GHz \| 4GiB \| HD3000 + GT520m \| 320GB \| Arch Linux \| laptop [ more info about my systems... ] The only sound I want to hear out of my computer (unless I'm gaming or watching a movie) is the hum of my 6000 rpm fan pushing air through my heatsink. - Seebs If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score. - I.M.O.G. I didn't go water-cooling for an air-cooling Vcore!! - bluezero5 I'll rm -rf /yourface/* - thideras
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08-14-12, 05:14 AM	#11
Mjolnir Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia	The MVG was almost 300 here... A full size atx z77 board was already available for just over half that. GG Aus prices. __________________ \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Motherboard - Asus Maximus Gene V Z77 CPU - i5 2500K @ 4.5ghz 1.3v /w Corsair H60 SE + GT AP-13 /w Scythe Kaze Master Fan Controller (GT AP-13/AP 181) RAM - 8GB G Skill Ripjaws 1600mhz. GPU - Asus GTX 670 DCUII Storage - Samsung 840 Pro 256GB + 2TB Seagate Cuda. Case - Silverstone TJ08-E PSU - Corsair HX650 OS - Windows 7 Ult 64 Peripherals - Leopold FC700R Graphite Brown MX + G500 Mouse Screen(s) - Dell U2711 Audio - Audioengine 5+ + Audioengine D1 + Wharfdale SW150 /w Shure SRH 840 Headphones
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08-14-12, 05:31 AM	#12
txus.palacios Premium Member #18 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cádiz (Spain)	It was the cheapest available, I think there were some from ASRock that were gonna arrive in a couple of weeks and also one from Gigabyte (UD3H IIRC) that was barely 10 EUR less than the MVG, so I couldn't resist :P. I needed the computer up for work asap, too, so I bought the MVG. __________________ Maximus V Gene \| i5-2500k 4.8GHz (ekHF) \| 16GiB \| GTX470 SLi @ 800MHz (ekFC) \| m4 128GB \| T50-RP \| Arch Linux + Windows 8 Pro \| gaming P67 Extreme4 B3 \| i3-2120T 35W 2.6GHz \| 32GiB \| ZFS - zRAID1 2TB \| VMware vSphere (ESXi) 5.1 \| server Samsung RC520 \| i5-2410M 2.3GHz \| 4GiB \| HD3000 + GT520m \| 320GB \| Arch Linux \| laptop [ more info about my systems... ] The only sound I want to hear out of my computer (unless I'm gaming or watching a movie) is the hum of my 6000 rpm fan pushing air through my heatsink. - Seebs If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score. - I.M.O.G. I didn't go water-cooling for an air-cooling Vcore!! - bluezero5 I'll rm -rf /yourface/* - thideras
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08-15-12, 03:53 AM	#16
txus.palacios Premium Member #18 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cádiz (Spain)	Yes, BIOS sucked a while ago. And NEVER flash beta BIOS even if they're gonna fix something you need. I was in the market for an Ivy and flashed my board to the BETA Ivy BIOS (I had a P67 Extreme4). The board dropped compatibility with ALL nVidias, it seems, since I couldn't use my 470s, or a friends 9800GTX+, or my fathers GTX260. I dropped a friend's HD2600XT, and it posted perfectly. I had to buy a new board because it seemed that BIOS upgraded something (I think it was IME?) and the downgrade was not possible. Not to mention that ASRock's customer support hasn't replied me yet. So I bought this MVG because I was in a rush, and since the board posted with a HD2600XT, I was sure the e-tailer I bought it from won't even care to send it to the distributor. __________________ Maximus V Gene \| i5-2500k 4.8GHz (ekHF) \| 16GiB \| GTX470 SLi @ 800MHz (ekFC) \| m4 128GB \| T50-RP \| Arch Linux + Windows 8 Pro \| gaming P67 Extreme4 B3 \| i3-2120T 35W 2.6GHz \| 32GiB \| ZFS - zRAID1 2TB \| VMware vSphere (ESXi) 5.1 \| server Samsung RC520 \| i5-2410M 2.3GHz \| 4GiB \| HD3000 + GT520m \| 320GB \| Arch Linux \| laptop [ more info about my systems... ] The only sound I want to hear out of my computer (unless I'm gaming or watching a movie) is the hum of my 6000 rpm fan pushing air through my heatsink. - Seebs If I turn up dead, somebody make sure they put "should have just benched in the cold" on my tombstone, along with my most recent superpi32m score. - I.M.O.G. I didn't go water-cooling for an air-cooling Vcore!! - bluezero5 I'll rm -rf /yourface/* - thideras
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08-26-12, 08:41 AM	#17
nanoscale Registered Join Date: Jan 2009	Do you really need 5 pci-e 3.0? ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM will be suited your needs.
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