Radeon HD 9000 series

vixro · Aug 1, 2013

Remember the last time AMD tried to do the 512bit memory bus?.. *cough* 2900XT. It skyrocketed the price of the product and provided no increase in performance.

Soulcatcher668 · Aug 1, 2013

Bobnova said:
The GTX780 is a GK110 not a GK114. AMD isn't going to mess that up.

Also, comparison clock/clock and comparing clock speeds is completely useless and shows a certain.... stupidity. As does comparing shader counts, ROP counts, and all other internal chip counts.
Anybody remember 5870 vs GTX580? The 5870 had (tons) more shaders, (much) higher clock, and got killed by the 580.
Those counts are only relevant when comparing to other chips that use the same shaders and ROPs and such.
Similarly, compare a GTX580 to a GTX680, the 580 has a wider memory bus and looses anyway.
Those comparisons are invalid, and those sheets are full of it.

So, you're on the fence on this one? :rofl:

Bobnova · Aug 1, 2013

When it comes out, it'll be good. Those slides didn't come from a trustworthy source though, that's a pump if I ever saw one.

ivanlabrie · Aug 1, 2013

Officialy no reason to get nvidia over amd now, unless you care for physx and 3d vision lol (or wanna bench and get the absolute best global scores)

Lightboost on AMD hack, no motion blur gaming

13.8 frame pacing driver (xfire fix)

manu2b · Aug 1, 2013

Thanks!

anhikilator · Aug 1, 2013

ivanlabrie said:
Officialy no reason to get nvidia over amd now, unless you care for physx and 3d vision lol (or wanna bench and get the absolute best global scores)

Or if you want to go multi-card setup and want to get the most of most games!

ivanlabrie · Aug 1, 2013

Did you see the stuff I linked?
Value wise, AMD is way above Nvidia with proper CF...

anhikilator · Aug 1, 2013

What is proper CF?

Supertrucker · Aug 1, 2013

He probably means the microstutter fixing drivers that came out today. Personally I think its still a bit early to sing praise to amd, but it was a step in the right direction. Now they need to iron out the details like how it doesn't work in eyefinity/dx9. None the less, after today the vast majority of crossfire users can forget about microstutter the same way sli users did after Kepler was released.

EarthDog · Aug 1, 2013

Great.. they were released... was there any testing done on them that shows it helped? What have users said that had the problems?

ivanlabrie · Aug 1, 2013

EarthDog said:
Great.. they were released... was there any testing done on them that shows it helped? What have users said that had the problems?

Reviews are out, people are using them...they work, almost as good as nvidia's hardware frame metering, to the point where you will never notice the difference 95% of the time.

Soulcatcher668 · Aug 1, 2013

EarthDog said:
Great.. they were released... was there any testing done on them that shows it helped? What have users said that had the problems?

The results seem to be quite promising.
GURU

There do seem to be some issues remaining.... but all in all... it's good.

anhikilator said:
Or if you want to go multi-card setup and want to get the most of most games!

ivanlabrie · Aug 1, 2013

http://www.overclock.net/t/1414778/various-catalyst-13-8-frame-pacing-driver-reviews

lotsa reviews there...all more or less the same. xD

We want 9990s now

anhikilator · Aug 1, 2013

ivanlabrie said:
We want 9990s now

Careful with that statement, AMD took 1.5 years to almost fix their product, how can you be so sure it won't happen again???

Supertrucker · Aug 1, 2013

I love how it wasn't a broken product when both companies had the problem but after nvidia fixes it and pushes a tool to show it in the worst possible light then its a broken product.

Crossfire wasn't broken before today, it had a small problem that most people didn't see on some games. And a very vocal minority of people like yourself who run nvidia cards coming to the ati/amd threads to talk about how awful they are.

anhikilator · Aug 1, 2013

I don't know if you follow my other threads but a month ago returned 2 7970s because the issues I was having were unbearable. Not coming here to just talk, I was wondering if they finally fixed it!

ivanlabrie · Aug 1, 2013

Also, newer cards will probably incorporate hardware frame metering anyway...

anhikilator · Aug 1, 2013

ivanlabrie said:
Also, newer cards will probably incorporate hardware frame metering anyway...

I was reading other reviews, and some folks were saying it isn't really a frame metering but instead, some kind of frame limiter, similar to what Radeon pro has been doing. Is that true?

I wish I could have tested this driver to get a more adequate opinion but it's true that during the 6 months I had the cards, every new driver release never fixed my issues.

Soulcatcher668 · Aug 1, 2013

anhikilator said:
I was reading other reviews, and some folks were saying it isn't really a frame metering but instead, some kind of frame limiter, similar to what Radeon pro has been doing. Is that true?

Why does this matter? Metering and limiting are essentially the same thing. If it works, the semantics and vernacular mean nothing.

I wish I could have tested this driver to get a more adequate opinion but it's true that during the 6 months I had the cards, every new driver release never fixed my issues.

I fail to see how your experiences last month have anything to do with this release.

*edit for time accuracy (6 months ago vs last month)

Supertrucker · Aug 1, 2013

It isn't frame limiting in the same sense as radeonpro, no. That's like vsync, a hard fps cap. This is more like a buffer so that you get every frame (as an example a random made up number) in 16 ms, instead of one at 16 then one at 8 then one at 24. Both scenarios would be 3 frames in 48ms but one looks smoother.

Functionally it does the same thing nvidia cards are doing in sli, but not quite as efficiently, yet.

Radeon HD 9000 series

Member

Member

Senior Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Way Too Jealous Member

Gulper Nozzle Co-Owner

Member

Member

Member

Member

Way Too Jealous Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Way Too Jealous Member

Similar threads